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Re: Amiga's place in the modern computing world - 00s
« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2008, 03:50:17 AM »
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We're all Amiga fans, our reality checks bounced long ago!


:laughing: :laughing:

How long you been holding on to that gem to use at a most appropriate moment??

Speaking of, don't see PC guy running around salvaging those truly awesome 80286/386/486s ms-dos/win95/98/SE systems. They're quite useless.

How different is our 23 year old system to the current stuff anyhow?

We've got 95% feature sets, just not current SW. We were "there" soooooo long ago!
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Re: Amiga's place in the modern computing world - 00s
« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2008, 04:24:23 AM »
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Atheist wrote:

Speaking of, don't see PC guy running around salvaging those truly awesome 80286/386/486s ms-dos/win95/98/SE systems. They're quite useless.


That's simply fallacious, there are a huge number of people who collect vintage PC hw/sw. Older x86 systems can be generally as useful as Amigas (linux), in fact, some DOS games were better than their Amiga counterparts (Dune II).
 
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How different is our 23 year old system to the current stuff anyhow?


:lol:


Anyway, I agree with persia... Amiga is fun simply because it _IS_ ridiculously outdated and cantankerous. It's a fun tinker toy... but trying to compare an A500 with RAM expansion and blown caps to modern quad core is LUDICROUS.

 

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Re: Amiga's place in the modern computing world - 00s
« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2008, 05:39:11 AM »
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Atheist wrote:

Speaking of, don't see PC guy running around salvaging those truly awesome 80286/386/486s ms-dos/win95/98/SE systems. They're quite useless.


That's simply fallacious, there are a huge number of people who collect vintage PC hw/sw. Older x86 systems can be generally as useful as Amigas (linux), in fact, some DOS games were better than their Amiga counterparts (Dune II).
 
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How different is our 23 year old system to the current stuff anyhow?


:lol:


Anyway, I agree with persia... Amiga is fun simply because it _IS_ ridiculously outdated and cantankerous. It's a fun tinker toy... but trying to compare an A500 with RAM expansion and blown caps to modern quad core is LUDICROUS.



I have an A4000 with 68060 cv64.  still rediculous?
 

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Re: Amiga's place in the modern computing world - 00s
« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2008, 05:39:35 AM »
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-D- wrote:
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Atheist wrote:

Speaking of, don't see PC guy running around salvaging those truly awesome 80286/386/486s ms-dos/win95/98/SE systems. They're quite useless.


That's simply fallacious, there are a huge number of people who collect vintage PC hw/sw. Older x86 systems can be generally as useful as Amigas (linux), in fact, some DOS games were better than their Amiga counterparts (Dune II).
 
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How different is our 23 year old system to the current stuff anyhow?


:lol:


Anyway, I agree with persia... Amiga is fun simply because it _IS_ ridiculously outdated and cantankerous. It's a fun tinker toy... but trying to compare an A500 with RAM expansion and blown caps to modern quad core is LUDICROUS.



I have an A4000 with 68060 cv64.  still ridiculous?
 

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Re: Amiga's place in the modern computing world - 00s
« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2008, 06:35:02 AM »
Being a staunch Amiga advocate since forever now, even I LMAOd at Bloodline's comment.
He who cannot laugh at himself, I suppose...
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Re: Amiga's place in the modern computing world - 00s
« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2008, 08:23:30 AM »
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stefcep2 wrote:
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-D- wrote:
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Atheist wrote:

Speaking of, don't see PC guy running around salvaging those truly awesome 80286/386/486s ms-dos/win95/98/SE systems. They're quite useless.


That's simply fallacious, there are a huge number of people who collect vintage PC hw/sw. Older x86 systems can be generally as useful as Amigas (linux), in fact, some DOS games were better than their Amiga counterparts (Dune II).
 
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How different is our 23 year old system to the current stuff anyhow?


:lol:


Anyway, I agree with persia... Amiga is fun simply because it _IS_ ridiculously outdated and cantankerous. It's a fun tinker toy... but trying to compare an A500 with RAM expansion and blown caps to modern quad core is LUDICROUS.



I have an A4000 with 68060 cv64.  still ridiculous?



Actually - yeah.
 

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Re: Amiga's place in the modern computing world - 00s
« Reply #35 on: June 09, 2008, 08:28:56 AM »
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As for the Amiga an aging lady who you can tell used to be pretty would be appropriate.


You mean a MILF? :)
 

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Re: Amiga's place in the modern computing world - 00s
« Reply #36 on: June 09, 2008, 08:31:39 AM »
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I think you'll find Alexander Holland worked for Psygnosis. ;-)

Actually... I only visited there. One of my former colleages from Colindale, North London (no one worked that out yet?) said there was a room full of Amiga's that were being thrown away. This was shortly before Psygnosis changed it's names to SCE Studios Liverpool.

When I got there... the Amiga's turned out to be Commodore x86 PC's (worthless). But I was able to find a PSOne Psyq devkit with all the cables, discs and manuals so the visit wasnt a total loss. I used it once (as a devkit) and then put in a box and stored under the bed for the last 9 years!
 

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Re: Amiga's place in the modern computing world - 00s
« Reply #37 on: June 09, 2008, 10:50:42 AM »
>Oh get over yourself!

The only thing about myself in that reply was that I am one of the exceptions to your statement:

"Amiga = smelly homeless guy looking in bins for things the rest of the industy discarded years ago..."

I am sure there are many others who are in my boat-- they got their amigas as new or via other channels like Ebay or friends so your remark:

>I was describing the state of the Amiga, rather accurately as it happens...

is wrong.

>Sure nothing wrong with "dumpster diving",

We agree on that point.  To add more details to this, you should rethink that what "industry discards" does not necessarily mean it's bad or obsolete.  They may have other reasons for discarding it.  They never used the standard 9-pin digital joystick ports in IBM or Apples but that does not mean it's refuse; same for many other things.

>but unfortunately that is state of the art with respect to the Amiga...

That's not true-- just your opinion.

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Re: Amiga's place in the modern computing world - 00s
« Reply #38 on: June 09, 2008, 11:06:00 AM »
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Re: Amiga's place in the modern computing world - 00s
« Reply #39 on: June 09, 2008, 11:59:07 AM »
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amigaksi wrote:
>Oh get over yourself!

The only thing about myself in that reply was that I am one of the exceptions to your statement:


Did you even read the posts before mine?

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"Amiga = smelly homeless guy looking in bins for things the rest of the industy discarded years ago..."

I am sure there are many others who are in my boat-- they got their amigas as new or via other channels like Ebay or friends so your remark:


Yeah, all my Amigas have come via that route too...

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>I was describing the state of the Amiga, rather accurately as it happens...

is wrong.


It's not wrong... The Amiga is Homeless, no parent company to look after it, it's got no job and can't be found in shops, and smelly as it's had nothing new in years.

The number of weird threads that want some old PPC chip, or desparatly clamouring after various old technologies... is perfectly sums up by "Looking in bins...etc".

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>Sure nothing wrong with "dumpster diving",

We agree on that point.  To add more details to this, you should rethink that what "industry discards" does not necessarily mean it's bad or obsolete.  


Yeah, it does. It means both. Industry will cling on to technology long after it has reached the end of its design life if it is either good or useful.

Once it has been discarded, it's nothing more than a curiosity.

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They may have other reasons for discarding it.  They never used the standard 9-pin digital joystick ports in IBM or Apples but that does not mean it's refuse; same for many other things.


What advantage does a custom DE9/DB9 have over something like USB?

The DE9/DB9 is:
Bulky;
Subject to ESD/EMI noise;
Can't be hot swapped;
Prone to pin breakage;
Unable to carry hi-speed data;
Expensive (compared to USB);
Require complex attachement to motherboards, 9pins vs 4pins(for USB);
Too big for use on mobile devices... really I could go on...

Do you still want your DE9/DB9 connector?

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>but unfortunately that is state of the art with respect to the Amiga...

That's not true-- just your opinion.



No, I would have stated that it was my opinion if it was my opinion.

I can't think of anything about the Amiga that isn't obsolete, but that is just my opinion, I've not done formal study :-)

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Re: Amiga's place in the modern computing world - 00s
« Reply #40 on: June 09, 2008, 12:22:23 PM »
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PC = PC Guy in Suit
Mac = Mac Guy Cool.
Amiga = Tattoed Skat3r Guy


Actually Amiga-CHAN mascot is not tatooed, and she looks sure a pretty cute anime girl...  ;-)  :roll:



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Re: Amiga's place in the modern computing world - 00s
« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2008, 12:33:22 PM »
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Raffaele wrote:
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amigakidd wrote:

PC = PC Guy in Suit
Mac = Mac Guy Cool.
Amiga = Tattoed Skat3r Guy


Actually Amiga-CHAN mascot is not tatooed, and she looks sure a pretty cute anime girl...  ;-)  :roll:



http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/displayimage.php?album=random&cat=10383&pos=-6807

http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/displayimage.php?pid=6807&fullsize=1


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Re: Amiga's place in the modern computing world - 00s
« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2008, 03:24:23 PM »
How can you tell with that drawing?


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koaftder wrote:
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Raffaele wrote:
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amigakidd wrote:

PC = PC Guy in Suit
Mac = Mac Guy Cool.
Amiga = Tattoed Skat3r Guy


Actually Amiga-CHAN mascot is not tatooed, and she looks sure a pretty cute anime girl...  ;-)  :roll:



http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/displayimage.php?album=random&cat=10383&pos=-6807

http://ostan-collections.net/imeeji/displayimage.php?pid=6807&fullsize=1


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Re: Amiga's place in the modern computing world - 00s
« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2008, 04:44:11 PM »
@ persia

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

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« Reply #44 from previous page: June 09, 2008, 05:17:35 PM »
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koaftder wrote:
Thank god she's not furry.

 :lol: so damned true :-D
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