New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation

[Retro_71]

I had a look at that torrent (BTW i would never have known it existed unless Ralph said so) it ok, BUT as a few have already said i want the book in front of me in paper form i don't like ready doc/pdf or large text file on the computer screen. I don't see why he would cancel everything just because of a torrent unless he realised that he couldn't make a big profit on the book (as a few people already have said) which means it's just an excuse to cop out.
(BTW i would have bought the book even though i know where the torrent is now and can download it if i choose...)

[weirdami]

he is forcing people to use the pirate copy

no he's not.

[the_leander]

weirdami wrote:

he is forcing people to use the pirate copy

no he's not.

There is a market for this book, people want to pay to get this information, some people might even argue that they need this information, by denying them a legitimate route to get at it, the author is in fact, forcing people to look elsewhere to acquire it. Since there are likely very few instances of this book being available on ebay, for instance, the only alternative is the torrented pdf, ergo, he is forcing people to use the pirate copy to access it.

I thank you, I'll be here all week.

 :-D

[TheMagicM]

Hmm.. I didnt know it existed as a torrent either..googled it and whoa, its there alright.

[AltRN8]

He should grab the already digitized copy from the torrent, package it up into a pdf and sell it. This would make it available to people to purchase legally and if you want a paper copy you can print it from the pdf. If there was enough interest they could decide to sell the new version or not.

Given the option I think lots of folks would be willing to pay for the original version in electronic format. If it was really successful he could discount the price of the new one for folks that bought the electronic version of the original.

I guess this all hangs on how good the quality of the illegal scans were. If they were good enough he could turn an act of piracy into free labor.

[TjLaZer]

Ok lets see who is serious.  I am.

Who would pay for a book?  Maybe Mr Babel will see this thread and change his mind.

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1.  TjLaZer
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[AltRN8]

TjLaZer wrote:
Ok lets see who is serious.  I am.

Who would pay for a book?  Maybe Mr Babel will see this thread and change his mind.

Add your name below:

1.  TjLaZer
2.  AltRN8
3.

[countzero]

AltRN8 wrote:

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1.  TjLaZer
2.  AltRN8
3.  CountZero

I wouldn't prepay, but I would definitely buy it if it came out with a reasonable price.

[Hans_]

countzero wrote:

AltRN8 wrote:

Add your name below:

1.  TjLaZer
2.  AltRN8
3.  CountZero
4.  Hans

I already said that I would above, but here it is again.

Hans

[tiffers]

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1.  TjLaZer
2.  AltRN8
3.  CountZero
4.  Hans
5.  tiffers

Out of interest, in Ralph's original announcement, he ends by thanking Keith. Does anyone know a Keith in the community who might be dastardly enough to put a torrent file out on the net to piss Ralph off? Sounds like a pissing contest to me, but I still REALLY want this book.

tiffers

[Tahoe]

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1.  TjLaZer
2.  AltRN8
3.  CountZero
4.  Hans
5.  tiffers
6.  Tahoe

[EvilGuy]

Hans_ wrote:
If enough people said that they would buy it, he'd be an idiot to continue to say no.

Idiocy and the Amiga community seem to go hand in hand. :-(

[amigadave]

Tahoe wrote:
Add your name below:

1.  TjLaZer
2.  AltRN8
3.  CountZero
4.  Hans
5.  tiffers
6.  Tahoe
7.  AmigaDave

Well, I doubt that having a list of 15 to 25 A.org members sign a list will make any difference, but I will play anyway.

I will buy the book or a PDF download and print my own, but I am with the others that say "no" to prepaying. Ralph can arrange a website with the download at a very low cost and little risk of recovering his investment.  It is a damn shame about what happened, but it doesn't mean he has to give up completely.  Publishing for such a small market was probably not cost efficient even without the bit torrent release.

[AmigaHeretic]

Hmmm... well something seems fishy here.

I went to the first "on demand" publisher I found on google which was lulu.com

Looks like I can make a book what is the following specs:

A4 B&W Perfect Bound 8.264" x 11.694" with 740 pages

Now that costs only $19.33 AND that is if you have just 1 single book made.  Now you get a discount if you have over 25 books made.

So there must be even better ways to do this then just the first thing I found on google right??

So I'll add my name to the list...

1. TjLaZer
2. AltRN8
3. CountZero
4. Hans
5. tiffers
6. Tahoe
7. AmigaDave
8. AmigaHeretic

....but I guess there is always another route to get a printed book for a reasonalbe cost if we really are given no choice and aren't really given the "truth".  This seems really silly.

[AndreasM]

webmany wrote:
I asked "Any chance of doing a pre-pay, and if enough orders come in then print the book?"

but the response was "i think no"

i write today a email to ralph and ask him again that he allow that we print the book. when he say no is the project for me closed. dont make really fun when i look why he dont would like reprint the book....

[madsjm]

I have never written a single line of Amiga code, but I was actually planning to buy this, just to have it.
Now that all this happened, I would definitely buy a copy to support the initiative.
I guess signing this doesn't help, but here goes nothing.

1. TjLaZer
2. AltRN8
3. CountZero
4. Hans
5. tiffers
6. Tahoe
7. AmigaDave
8. AmigaHeretic
9. madsjm