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OS4 and/or MOS on PPC A4000T
« on: May 06, 2008, 02:13:23 AM »
I have a Amiga 4000T w/a 150mhz Cyberstorm PPC card.  I'm in the process of cleaning it up and reinstalling 3.9.  I am curious though.. Anyone install OS4 on their PPC based Amiga running at 150mhz?  Responsive? What about MOS?  How simple is it to install?  Can I dual/triple boot?  Do I need to buy OS4 and MOS? (Not asking for a pirated copy, just wondering if its free or not)

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Re: OS4 and/or MOS on PPC A4000T
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2008, 02:55:40 AM »
I have a CS PPC 060/233 and a BPPC/Bvision 040/175 combo. Both of them run OS4/MOS just fine. You can triple boot with either setup. I can send along some information on how to set it up if needed.

One quick observation. Even though my A4000T machine is technically faster it is using a Picasso IV for graphics. The 1200 almost feels faster to me even though it is only a 175mhz PPC. This almost has to be the Bvision. It seems to make a big difference. OS4 without any graphics card (Only AGA) will just frustrate you in my opinion. It will install and run, but it really feels much slower to me. The only other advice I have is the more ram the better. I would consider 128 megs pretty much a minimum for OS4.

Yes, MOS for Powerup is free at this time. You have to send the request for the Key file from the machine you want to install it on to overcome the 2 hour time limitation.

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Re: OS4 and/or MOS on PPC A4000T
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2008, 04:21:25 PM »
RE: OS4, how did you miss this? :-D


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Re: OS4 and/or MOS on PPC A4000T
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2008, 04:59:25 PM »
A CybervisionPPC on the PPC card is much faster as you're using a PCI bus connected to the PPC card.

The CV64 even at Z3 speeds can't match PCI.

Used to have that setup, man was it fast.
 

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Re: OS4 and/or MOS on PPC A4000T
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2008, 06:42:49 PM »
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I have a Amiga 4000T w/a 150mhz Cyberstorm PPC card. I'm in the process of cleaning it up and reinstalling 3.9. I am curious though.. Anyone install OS4 on their PPC based Amiga running at 150mhz? Responsive? What about MOS? How simple is it to install? Can I dual/triple boot? Do I need to buy OS4 and MOS? (Not asking for a pirated copy, just wondering if its free or not)


MorphOS for PowerUp is available for free from powerup.morphos-team.net and OS4 is available from OS4 resellers world wide.

68k applications in MorphOS on my Amiga 1200 (BPPC 040@25MHz/603@175MHz) ran faster than on 68k but there were also some applications that did not run faster on PPC than on 68k... your mileage may wary.

Graphics are definitely faster on PPC, so is AHI and MP3 decoding.

MorphOS can be installed on Amiga system partition but using its own partition is probably better idea. You can triple boot to 68k/MorphOS/OS4 or even Linux or anything you wish.

Installing OS is easy part. Getting it run with all expansion cards always is not.
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Re: OS4 and/or MOS on PPC A4000T
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2008, 06:57:27 PM »
If you dont mind Jeff could you send me the info for dual booting os4 & mos please

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Re: OS4 and/or MOS on PPC A4000T
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2008, 07:23:29 PM »
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Jujasi wrote:
If you dont mind Jeff could you send me the info for dual booting os4 & mos please

Cheers


Me Too!

I just changed my mind about AmigaOS4.x because, even though it is far from perfect, at least there are a few remaining Amiga programmers that are working on it.  And although I don't like what Hyperion has done or said on several occasions, at least they are dedicated to continuing development.  I am starting to think that Amiga Inc. only has one reason to win their case and get OS4 away from Hyperion and that is to act like Microsoft and just kill it, so the only product that will have the Amiga name on it will be their AmigaAnywhere that no one wants.  A.Inc does not have the skill or R&D budget to actually produce any new hardware for AOS4.0.  How sad!
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Re: OS4 and/or MOS on PPC A4000T
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2008, 03:29:53 AM »
These are not my notes. They helped me get sorted out though. I just use the early boot menu to select the partition I want to boot from.
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In sys:kickstart/kicklayout search for BootDevice. Remove the ";" at the beginning. Then in a shell type echo > kickstart/BootDevice "dh1" where dh1 is the OS4 boot partition
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My solution to dual booting OS3.x/OS4 is as follows:

1) You need seperate partitions for each OS, I'll call them OS3: and OS4: for this tutorial
2) Give OS3: the highest boot priority
3) Edit OS4:Kickstart/KickLayout-WhicheverAmigaYouHave and uncomment the "MODULE Kickstart/BootDevice" line
4) From a shell type "echo > OS4:Kickstart/BootDevice "OS4"
5) Copy the Kickstart directory from OS4: to OS3:
6) Copy Bootloader from OS4:C to OS3:C

Substitute the partition names as appropriate. In step 3, choose the Kicklayout file that matches your Amiga model.

Now when you boot from the OS3: partition, you can run Bootloader (from shell, Opus button bank etc.) to load the OS4 kickstart files and autoboot the OS4 partition. In OS4, run C:Reboot to reset to KS3.x. You can still go straight to OS4 by selecting its partiton in Early Startup Control.

This method can be used with boot utilities such as SelectOS from Aminet, or start OS4 from the OS3.x Startup-Sequence if a mouse button is held down etc.