Did I kill my A600?

[mike-]

might be the ide cable,  i've had hordes of problems with them, until i finally got one from amigakit

[Fingers]

Xamiche is right man, unfortunately you had it plugged in the wrong way (I suspected, but didn't look too hard as I was at work when posting in your other thread).

The IDE bus can handle a device being plugged in the wrong way for a few seconds, but eventually it'll die...and I'm sad to say yours has indeed been fried :-(

There is an A1200 mobo on eBay.au at the moment...maybe time for an upgrade, given the excuse you now have? Tower conversion anyone? :-)

PZ.

[monami]

i didn't realise you are in oz. that makes it worse. i prefer a1200 to a600. although it's cute i never use mine. is it sentimental to you? i'd go for the a1200. unless you already have one of course.

[RedWarrior]

I would like to get a 1200 eventually, but can't afford it at the moment. I need to know if this thing is definitely dead, as I only did very short tests with the IDE setup, there was no burning smell or anything...

and I've definitely done this on a PC previously- it didn't boot, so I turned the cable around.... no problem.  why should it burn out?


What should the bios be showing? I have DF0 and CC0- and I don't know what should be there...

Still boots from floppy- tho I don't have many floppies that actually work these days.

[Fingers]

If it detects any HDD on the bus, be it formatted or not, it will show HD0 when you enter "boot options".

I am assuming that by "BIOS" you mean holding both mouse buttons for start preferences when you turn it on?

PZ.

[RedWarrior]

Yeah- the dual mouse button thing... (is BIOS an inaccurate description?) No HD0 shows up...

what is CC0 and why is it listed as a boot option?

This is going to take a while to sink in... I've been looking forward to getting this up and running for months, and have been through a lot of crap to find parts etc...

Stupid a600 piece of @$!$%!^!^

[motorollin]

Fingers wrote:
If it detects any HDD on the bus, be it formatted or not, it will show HD0 when you enter "boot options".

Only if there are partitions on the disk. It won't arbitrarily show HD0 just because there's a hard disk there.

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moto

[Flashlab]

It's called Early Startup Control. And it should show any properly configured storage device. Harddisks can be assigned different names but usual ones are HD0: or DH0:. The 0 can be any number of course. Usually you would number the paritions.

CC0: is the PCMCIA card slot.

[Flashlab]

If you want to be sure you fried your A600's IDE port, you should connect the HD the right way with power and then run HDToolBox to see if the system can see any drives on scsi.device. If that fails you have succesfully fried your IDE port.

[Marcb]

RedWarrior wrote:
Yeah- the dual mouse button thing... (is BIOS an inaccurate description?) No HD0 shows up...

what is CC0 and why is it listed as a boot option?

This is going to take a while to sink in... I've been looking forward to getting this up and running for months, and have been through a lot of crap to find parts etc...

 

Mate I feel for you, do you have an old laptop that you can take the HD out of to test the IDE port on the 600 ? Or maybe test the 3.5/CF drive on the PC?

[Fingers]

CC0 is the PCMCIA port.

Sorry to hear about this man, I know the agony you are feeling :-(

PZ.

[TheGoose]

Yes, get back to basics, throw out all CF stuff and see if it is alive.

I have hooked up IDE drives backwards on an A1200, I don't think it fried it...

BTW, get a better CF adaptor, yours is crap.

http://www.addonics.com/products/flash_memory_reader/adidecf.asp


I do feel for you, stinks, but you'll get a machine going.

[Xamiche]

RedWarrior wrote:
and I've definitely done this on a PC previously- it didn't boot, so I turned the cable around.... no problem.  why should it burn out?

A PC 3.5" hard drive only has 40-pins, and it's cable doesn't carry the power for the drives logic and motor on it. So you can get the cable around the wrong way and be okay. However with a 2.5" drive, having no molex power connector like a 3.5" HD, the power is carried on cable via pins 41 to 43. (41 = 5v, 42 = 5v, 43 = GND) If you get the cable around the wrong way you're dumping the 5volts from 41 & 42 into pins 3 & 4. Which are data lines.

If the A600 still boots from floppy, like someone here suggested, connect your old HD, boot from floppy and use the HDToolBox to try and detect the HD.

[TheGoose]

@Xamiche

Yeah, that does makes sense about the 2.5" power. fingers crossed for you man...

[a1200]

Look at this Amiga Retro Experience always had spare boards in stock. If they are not currently listed, send him a mail.

[Tenacious]

This is a long shot.  Sometimes, when I pull ribbon cables from hard drives, the end connectors separate a little.  Everything looks fine but one or more connections could be lost.  This is consistent with  having no indication or smell of failure.

Examine the cable and try to press the connector halves back onto the ribbon.  Better yet, replace the ribbon cable.

Good Luck!