Any German Amiga users out there?

[bloodline]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

bloodline wrote:

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Er ist einen guten freund.

Das hört gut mir zu! :-)

Entschuldige, ich muss teutlicher sein.

Was bedeutet 'teutlicher'? Meinst du Deutlich?

Aber dem boot (von ihnem eltern) hat mann verkaufen mussen.

Wirklich! Wann haben sie das boot verkaufen?

irgendwie am 2004... glaube ich.

Das war vor vier jahren!

Es ist langer zeit!

[Speelgoedmannetje]

bloodline wrote:

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

bloodline wrote:

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Er ist einen guten freund.

Das hört gut mir zu! :-)

Entschuldige, ich muss teutlicher sein.

Was bedeutet 'teutlicher'? Meinst du Deutlich?

Ja

Aber dem boot (von ihnem eltern) hat mann verkaufen mussen.

Wirklich! Wann haben sie das boot verkaufen?

irgendwie am 2004... glaube ich.

Das war vor vier jahren!

Es ist langer zeit!

gutes zeit :-)

[Speelgoedmannetje]

Jiskefet und chavs

[bloodline]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Jiskefet und chavs

:lol: Freunde von dir? ;-)

[bloodline]

Ok, I decided to "bite the bullet" and look into taking an actual German class... I went down to my local language school and had a look at their courses, all are reasonably priced and had acceptable timetables... So I took their "level finder" test to see where my current level of German is at.

The test was simple, 200 questions, all in German and I had to answer as many as possible in 20min. Early questions were easy, simple noun and verb agreement stuff... Later questions were more difficult and seemed context sensitive... Should I uses wollen or sollen? u.s.w... Word order and tenses were tested heavily.

The second part was 5min talking with an examiner...

Anyway, results back... I scored 86% Reading & writing... 20% listening and speaking... They don't know which class to put me in... My Reading and writing puts me at Advanced level... My listening and speaking puts me in at beginner level...

They suggested I go upper intermediate... With a proviso that I will struggle with the listening speaking part... But I might be able to catch up...

Languages suck :-p :-D

[Speelgoedmannetje]

bloodline wrote:
Ok, I decided to "bite the bullet" and look into taking an actual German class... I went down to my local language school and had a look at their courses, all are reasonably priced and had acceptable timetables... So I took their "level finder" test to see where my current level of German is at.

The test was simple, 200 questions, all in German and I had to answer as many as possible in 20min. Early questions were easy, simple noun and verb agreement stuff... Later questions were more difficult and seemed context sensitive... Should I uses wollen or sollen? u.s.w... Word order and tenses were tested heavily.

The second part was 5min talking with an examiner...

Anyway, results back... I scored 86% Reading & writing... 20% listening and speaking... They don't know which class to put me in... My Reading and writing puts me at Advanced level... My listening and speaking puts me in at beginner level...


They suggested I go upper intermediate... With a proviso that I will struggle with the listening speaking part... But I might be able to catch up...

You obviously need to go to germany.

Languages suck :-p :-D

Well, you speak only in a foreign language! I don't! I speak normal.

[bloodline]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

bloodline wrote:
Ok, I decided to "bite the bullet" and look into taking an actual German class... I went down to my local language school and had a look at their courses, all are reasonably priced and had acceptable timetables... So I took their "level finder" test to see where my current level of German is at.

The test was simple, 200 questions, all in German and I had to answer as many as possible in 20min. Early questions were easy, simple noun and verb agreement stuff... Later questions were more difficult and seemed context sensitive... Should I uses wollen or sollen? u.s.w... Word order and tenses were tested heavily.

The second part was 5min talking with an examiner...

Anyway, results back... I scored 86% Reading & writing... 20% listening and speaking... They don't know which class to put me in... My Reading and writing puts me at Advanced level... My listening and speaking puts me in at beginner level...


They suggested I go upper intermediate... With a proviso that I will struggle with the listening speaking part... But I might be able to catch up...

You obviously need to go to germany.

Ach! Natürlich herr speel!!! But that's not possible at this time! Be sure, the moment I can escape to Germany I will...

Languages suck :-p :-D

Well, you speak only in a foreign language! I don't! I speak normal.

:lol: I forgot I speak in foreign... You'd think since I have one foreign language already, I've be better at another one... ;-)

[Speelgoedmannetje]

bloodline wrote:

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

bloodline wrote:
Ok, I decided to "bite the bullet" and look into taking an actual German class... I went down to my local language school and had a look at their courses, all are reasonably priced and had acceptable timetables... So I took their "level finder" test to see where my current level of German is at.

The test was simple, 200 questions, all in German and I had to answer as many as possible in 20min. Early questions were easy, simple noun and verb agreement stuff... Later questions were more difficult and seemed context sensitive... Should I uses wollen or sollen? u.s.w... Word order and tenses were tested heavily.

The second part was 5min talking with an examiner...

Anyway, results back... I scored 86% Reading & writing... 20% listening and speaking... They don't know which class to put me in... My Reading and writing puts me at Advanced level... My listening and speaking puts me in at beginner level...


They suggested I go upper intermediate... With a proviso that I will struggle with the listening speaking part... But I might be able to catch up...

You obviously need to go to germany.

Ach! Natürlich herr speel!!! But that's not possible at this time! Be sure, the moment I can escape to Germany I will...

Hidden in ze madonna wiz ze big boobies?

Languages suck :-p :-D

Well, you speak only in a foreign language! I don't! I speak normal.

:lol: I forgot I speak in foreign... You'd think since I have one foreign language already, I've be better at another one... ;-)

But you do speak foreign already, so what's this all about? :-?

[bloodline]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

bloodline wrote:

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

bloodline wrote:
Ok, I decided to "bite the bullet" and look into taking an actual German class... I went down to my local language school and had a look at their courses, all are reasonably priced and had acceptable timetables... So I took their "level finder" test to see where my current level of German is at.

The test was simple, 200 questions, all in German and I had to answer as many as possible in 20min. Early questions were easy, simple noun and verb agreement stuff... Later questions were more difficult and seemed context sensitive... Should I uses wollen or sollen? u.s.w... Word order and tenses were tested heavily.

The second part was 5min talking with an examiner...

Anyway, results back... I scored 86% Reading & writing... 20% listening and speaking... They don't know which class to put me in... My Reading and writing puts me at Advanced level... My listening and speaking puts me in at beginner level...


They suggested I go upper intermediate... With a proviso that I will struggle with the listening speaking part... But I might be able to catch up...

You obviously need to go to germany.

Ach! Natürlich herr speel!!! But that's not possible at this time! Be sure, the moment I can escape to Germany I will...

Hidden in ze madonna wiz ze big boobies?

'allo allo? Goood moaning,  A werz joost pissing by... ;-)

Languages suck :-p :-D

Well, you speak only in a foreign language! I don't! I speak normal.

:lol: I forgot I speak in foreign... You'd think since I have one foreign language already, I'd be better at another one... ;-)

But you do speak foreign already, so what's this all about? :-?

Yes, I what is wrong with me? :-D

[Speelgoedmannetje]

bloodline wrote:

'allo allo? Goood moaning,  A werz joost pissing by... ;-)

I say this only once

Yes, I what is wrong with me? :-D

Well, obviously, you have some linguistic disorder. For now, I'll leave you to the caring hands of the night nurse

[bloodline]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

bloodline wrote:

'allo allo? Goood moaning,  A werz joost pissing by... ;-)

I say this only once

"Faffah, fah-fah fah-fah faah. Faffah, fah-fah fah-fah faah..."

Yes, I what is wrong with me? :-D

Well, obviously, you have some linguistic disorder. For now, I'll leave you to the care of the night nurse

Good grief! What on earth was that?!?!?

[Speelgoedmannetje]

bloodline wrote:
Good grief! What on earth was that?!?!?

Dutch 70s/80s band, "Doe Maar". Here they sing their painly longing (do something against the pain) for the night nurse.

[motorollin]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

bloodline wrote:
Yes, I what is wrong with me? :-D

Well, obviously, you have some linguistic disorder.

Since his first language was acquired normally, you cannot use the pattern of acquisition of his second language as an indicator of disordered language :-P


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moto

[bloodline]

motorollin wrote:

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

bloodline wrote:
Yes, I what is wrong with me? :-D

Well, obviously, you have some linguistic disorder.

Since his first language was acquired normally, you cannot use the pattern of acquisition of his second language as an indicator of disordered language :-P

No, I think Speel is quite right... I've got some kind of twisted brain wrong... The lady at the language school said that it was weird for someone to be so good in one area, and so poor in the other... And to make matters worse, usually it's the reading/writing that is behind the speaking/listening :-(

[motorollin]

Speaking, listening, reading and writing are all handled by different parts of the brain. That's why different types of aphasia affect different language modalities. It is perfectly possible for someone to have good reading/writing skills and not so good speaking/listening skills. You probably just need more practice at conversing in German to catch up with all the work you have done on your reading and writing skills.

Also remember that spoken language is fleeting - once it has been said, it's gone and you have to process it mentally (i.e. remember it while you're translating it). And with spoken language you are under pressure to conform to the conventions of conversation - i.e. to speak fluently and not pause to work out what you're going to say next. At least with reading the words remain on the page indefinitely so you can take your time translating them, and with writing you can take as long as you want to work out the next word.

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moto

[bloodline]

motorollin wrote:
Speaking, listening, reading and writing are all handled by different parts of the brain. That's why different types of aphasia affect different language modalities. It is perfectly possible for someone to have good reading/writing skills and not so good speaking/listening skills. You probably just need more practice at conversing in German to catch up with all the work you have done on your reading and writing skills.

For sure! unfortunately I'm much happier with theory than practice :-) It's the same with Music,  I am happy to read a book and compose a piece of music... actually practising a piece to perform... gah, that's boring ;-)

It's odd though, as most musicians I know, actually enjoy the performance much much more than the theory... weird...

Also remember that spoken language is fleeting - once it has been said, it's gone and you have to process it mentally (i.e. remember it while you're translating it). And with spoken language you are under pressure to conform to the conventions of conversation - i.e. to speak fluently and not pause to work out what you're going to say next. At least with reading the words remain on the page indefinitely so you can take your time translating them, and with writing you can take as long as you want to work out the next word.

It's true! When reading German sentences I often flick back and forth picking up the nouns and verbs in the order that I expected them... It's only recently that I have learned to read linearly and build the sense of the sentence in my head... not easy given the length of German sentences :-D

I really enjoy reading and to a lesser extent listening to German... Writing I find difficult, but speaking is something that is still alluding me... My English gets in the way!