How fast is "fast enough"

[orange]

when it comes to Amigas, I also think 040 is good enough for  most things.

of course PCs will never be "fast enough". Sooner or later 3D monitors will be mass produced, and demand for speed will increase dramatically.

[amigadave]

I think that most Amiga software will run well with an 030/50mHz CPU, but there are several Amiga programs (such as all 3D rendering programs) that need all the speed you can give them.  I have also read that the 030 breaks less games than the 040 and 060, but with WHDLoad and the like, games can be run with almost anything.

[monami]

i would like a system that could emulate the fastest amiga and be at least a modern multimedia computer.

[amigadave]

monami wrote:
i would like a system that could emulate the fastest amiga and be at least a modern multimedia computer.

What is stopping you?  AmiKit, AmigaForever, WinUAE, AmigaSys

[monami]

ermm. real world amiga please. (i was thinking new amiga with 68kemulation. i guess we don't say ppc anymore?)

somebody in the thread mentioned hd-rec. what are the requirements for that program? thanks.

[AJCopland]

Fast enough to play the games that I still want to play :-D 030 at 50Mhz for all those that need a little more! I never wanted to play Gloom3D etc so it doesn't need the extra ooomph of an 060.

For tinkering and just for the sheer geeky hell of it I'd like to get a PPC with 040 working but I don't really need it.

Andy

[adonay]

For my amiga use a 040@40mhz is ok for most things my 060 is all i need for my classic amiga ..

On my main coumputer i am running a  quad cpu overclocked to 3.4Ghz "it does the trick" . Why would i need a faster amiga `?

[klx300r]

030@50 runs every game and music app I need just great :-D

[Ral-Clan]

monami wrote:

somebody in the thread mentioned hd-rec. what are the requirements for that program? thanks.

The author says that an 060 is the minimum requirement with the current version (can do most things with some limitations).  However, the next version will be PPC only.

[melott]

I have a WarpEngine 040 @ 40 mhz running OS 3.9
in my A3000 and it does all I want it to just fine.

IMHO Lazy and inefficent programmers are the problem.
I'm not refering to the hobbiests who dabble and write
some small util or something like that. I'm refering to
the Pro's who write for a living.
Look what was done with a 1 mhz C=64. No room for garbage
on that machine, they wrote good tight code.
The faster the CPU's get the sloppier the coder will be.

Mel
 

[AJCopland]

melott wrote:
The faster the CPU's get the sloppier the coder will be.

...and the more pretty things and "expected functionality" you'll be asked to shoehorn in all whilst trying not to shoot yourself in the foot and make something unmaintainable :-P

Not _all_ our fault :-D

Andy

[HopperJF]

bloodline wrote:

A6000 wrote:
We have 020's at 14 mhz w/FastRam, 030's at 25 to 50 mhz, 040's at 25 to 40 mhz, and 060's at 50 to 90 mhz,

Now, putting aside the view that a computer can never be "too fast", what would be the minimum useable processor and speed.

For me the minimum is currently 2.33Ghz... and even that is starting to become a limitation as I need to push my creative abilities.

And I bet a vanilla A1200 with HD can boot the OS and load applications quicker.

[HopperJF]

melott wrote:
I have a WarpEngine 040 @ 40 mhz running OS 3.9
in my A3000 and it does all I want it to just fine.

IMHO Lazy and inefficent programmers are the problem.
I'm not refering to the hobbiests who dabble and write
some small util or something like that. I'm refering to
the Pro's who write for a living.
Look what was done with a 1 mhz C=64. No room for garbage
on that machine, they wrote good tight code.
The faster the CPU's get the sloppier the coder will be.

Mel
 

Agreed. People don't seem to care about efficiency any more. The power is that high that efficiency goes right out of the window.

[A1260]

p3 800mhz,768mb ram,ata133 hd 8mb cache,gfx card gf4 mx.... is the minimum for winxp sp1... window is so bloated today its insane..

[AmigaMance]

what would be the minimum useable processor and speed.

 It depends heavily on the intended usage. But generally, a 68030 at 40mhz should be considered the lowest configuration for a just about usable setup these days.

[sandpiper]

@melott

I have a WarpEngine 040 @ 40 mhz running OS 3.9in my A3000 and it does all I want it to just fine.

I agree. I have the same setup. Although when you use apps such as IBrowse & Yam they are a little sluggish. Performance difference with these and other apps is quite noticeable in my other machine which has an '060. '060 is much snappier. For me, an '040 equipped machine would be the minimum standard.