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Re: Increasing speed of computer
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2003, 04:10:22 PM »
chip ram was shared between CPU and DMA, so if DMA was active CPU had to wait.

fast ram was in use exclusivelly by CPU, so accessing it didn't requre waiting for DMA.

mysterious slow ram - only CPU was able to generate address for it, so only CPU was able to access it, but the address space from this range was handled by bus for chip ram - so if CPU wanted access from this ram it had to wait for DMA to finish, altough DMA itself was never able to use it.

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Re: Increasing speed of computer
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2003, 04:15:34 PM »
Swapping things to disk isn't _necessarily_ bad.

For instance, a Linux application might have some code blocks marked with __init or something. This will usually be swapped out to disk immedieately after being used, because there's next to zero chance it'll be needed anytime soon. It's basically code you run once per startup. Waiting until memory is sparse before swapping would mean delaying a problem, so much smarter to just use spare CPU/HD cycles and get rid of it now.

However, one shouldn't excessively try to find new ways to increase swap usage either  :-D
 

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Re: Increasing speed of computer
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2003, 05:13:38 PM »
re: that other way to reinstall Win98 -

I don't know if the cabs are there, I doubt it though, considering Win98 always asked for the CD when installing new stuff unless you did a few registry tweaks.  If it had the CABs on disk already why not pick the files it needs from there?

 

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Re: Increasing speed of computer
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2003, 05:55:44 PM »
windows Xp runs fine here on 128MB of RAM. Psst... the trick is: use Ad-Aware; don't run crap on startup. I also use Xp-Antispy and run in 'classic' mode though the computer works fine with looks set to 'teletubby' AHEM I mean 'best'.
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Re: Increasing speed of computer
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2003, 07:07:09 PM »
@Mikeymike

I dunno, when I reinstall drivers, I always am offered to look in C:\windows\options\CABS in W98.




"re: that other way to reinstall Win98 -

"I don't know if the cabs are there, I doubt it though, considering Win98 always asked for the CD when installing new stuff unless you did a few registry tweaks. If it had the CABs on disk already why not pick the files it needs from there?"
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Re: Increasing speed of computer
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2003, 07:44:29 PM »
I always copied the Win98 diectory from my CD onto my harddrive, then ran the install from there.  The registry then pointed the C:\win98 directory and always looked there for any necessary drivers.
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Re: Increasing speed of computer
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2003, 08:18:43 PM »
It's been a long time since I played with a Win98 install.

@ Lo

Is your Win98 setup your own, ie. did you install it to a newly-formatted partition with a normal Win98 setup CD, or is it a recovery CD job of some company's install?

Reminds me a while ago, asking someone if they had reinstalled their machine before... "yeah! loads of times"... I later found out he used a recovery CD :-)
 

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Re: Increasing speed of computer
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2003, 09:20:55 PM »
@mikeymike

 Yes it was from HP recovery disks the point being (to speed up computers) to eliminate all the JUNK that comes with Hewlett Packard software and just wind up with a bare windows box. (well almost)

 
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Re: Increasing speed of computer
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2003, 01:18:35 PM »
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by Dan on 2003/8/10 18:13:33

The easiest way to speed up any computer is....
get more RAM!


I've noticed barely any difference since I installed more memory in my G4 Mac. The only thing that has made any visible performance improvements was the Radeon 8500 Mac Edition Graphics card.

Just how much ram does one need to install for a noticable result? :-?

I have 640mb btw.
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Re: Increasing speed of computer
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2003, 04:15:52 PM »
The difference is between not enough and enough RAM. If you didn´t notice any difference then you clearly had enough already.
Going from 128MB to 1GB on my pc was a big difference just like going adding 32MB Fastmem to the A1200.

And I used Adaware and Antispy  and had  the interface set to "custom" no shadows or other crap.
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Re: Increasing speed of computer
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2003, 12:28:02 AM »
Well I went from 128mb to 640mb, isn't that quite a big leap? :-o
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Re: Increasing speed of computer
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2003, 01:12:14 AM »
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by Mike_Amiga on 2003/8/13 1:28:02    Well I went from 128mb to 640mb, isn't that quite a big leap?  

I don´t know how much memory MacOS needs at all but if it was an amiga you wouldn´t notice the difference.
It also depends on what programs you run obivously a 3d-program benefits more than a textviewer, they biggest difference for me is that  with 1GB I can run UAE without shutting down all running programs first.
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Re: Increasing speed of computer
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2003, 10:36:30 AM »
Looks like I have enough memory then, any more would probably be a waste of the GBP. Well in my case at least... :-)  :-D  :-P
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Re: Increasing speed of computer
« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2003, 11:03:11 AM »
I read somewhere that w2k and wXP has its optimal ammount of memory at around 1024mb. =1gb

Kind of insane isn't it?

Despite being a w2k user, I must say GO GO GO! to the people behind the new winblows worm.


Microsoft must learn its lessons about taking security to lightly.
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Re: Increasing speed of computer
« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2003, 12:20:36 PM »
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optimal amount of memory at around 1024mb

my A500 with its 512 Kb is laughing !!!

Ok AmigaOS 1.3 doesn't do what Win does, I know.
But it can do what Win still can't: loadwb loads a GUI in half a second...
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Re: Increasing speed of computer
« Reply #29 from previous page: August 13, 2003, 01:12:55 PM »
XP has 192mb seems a bit of  a struggle
A1 has 512mb
oh and the 1200 has 2mb hehehe