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Movie Makers
« on: April 17, 2008, 06:00:08 AM »
Any movie makers here?
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Re: Movie Makers
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2008, 03:55:26 PM »
I've done special effects and worked on films in other capacities...what is your question??
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Re: Movie Makers
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2008, 05:49:11 PM »
@ cecilia :
First, I wanted to see if anyone is into that subject.  Then, I would like to see what their take on it.

I have read most of a book called " Make Your Own Damn Movie ".  

Could you tell me the pluses and minuses of such an job or your job?
Could you tell me what camera would be good for an amateur?

I saw a camera at BestBuy that cost about 1400.00 US that could do HD.  Would I need to spend that much?

Thanks.
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Re: Movie Makers
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2008, 07:05:07 PM »
what camera you use depends on what you are going to do with your finshed film.

showing a film in a theater really needs 35mm film stock to look good. Or an HD camera

however, these days you can show your work (or parts of it) on youtube. or other web sites.

I know a guy that made a film with a handheld camera. Don't ask me which model because I wasn't there when he did it. But It was all digital. camera, editing, everything.

in terms of price that's the best way to go. I did much of the special effects for his film and he gave me files in the divx format. That way the quality did not degrade. I saved in the divx format so when the editor dropped the effects files in the edited footage it would match.

If you pay attention to details your work can look surprisingly good dispite the relativly low price of the equiptment. And digital cameras are sensative to light in a way that film cameras are not. Educate yourself about that before you start shooting with actors.

the good things about digital cameras of course is that there's no huge overhead on film stock. In fact I would spend lots of time making tests. Shooting in all sorts of lighting situations and making experiments. That way, once you get with the actors there are fewer surprises.

What matters is not the camera. and ok camera will do fine. What you need is a good script, a talented director and an experienced crew.
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Re: Movie Makers
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2008, 07:17:49 PM »
these people made a film :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqd7JXCw2QI

and these people:
http://www.youtube.com/user/sillyweefilms

made a science fiction series.
their main site is here:  http://www.nightisday.com/
and they seem to be selling DVD's of this series which is now in it's 2nd series. No kidding.

and it appears to have not cost much. Somewhere on the site he's got more details about pricing. From what I have seen the  main actor is Spectular, the story is quite interesting and the direction sometimes is a bit irritating, but I can't stop looking. Which is a good sign!

See, it's already being done! Obviously you need a bunch of people whp are willing to play along. Making a film is a team efforts.
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Re: Movie Makers
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2008, 08:15:19 PM »
Big thanks.  I will be getting back to Blender next week and in between semesters.
I will probably build a new computer and get an inexpensive camera.  I have Pinnacle Studio Ultimate and want to get Avid Liquid. That is another 399.00 US, I believe.
Good day and cool avatar. Apollo?
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Re: Movie Makers
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2008, 11:14:11 PM »
The Av is a still from one of the projects I did. It is "From the Earth to the Moon" and was on HBO. And, yes, it was about the moon missions including Apollo. I made some of the effects. There must have been a good 100 people at least doing effects. The whole series cost about 60 million dollars.  

google the title and pick up the DVD pronto. It's an incredible series. (no, I don't make any residuals, unfortunately). As my colleague used to say, special effects (artists) are the bottom of the food chain.

In any case I consider this one of the highest moments of my career.
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Re: Movie Makers
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2008, 11:41:12 PM »
 Wow.  I may have seen that show or at least some of it.
edit:  If it was on HBO I guess I did not see it.  I may have thought of something on the History or Discovery Channel.

 If I recall the Saturn V had 3 stages.  The big booster, the smaller 2nd stage and the command,service module with the LEM in between 2nd and upper stage.
I had to think about it for a  moment.
edit:  
This vehicle had 3 stages. The 3rd stage had CSM and LEM, etc. The 2nd was the same diameter as the first.
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Re: Movie Makers
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2008, 01:41:50 PM »
It was made for HBO but has since been on a few other channels.

so it's possible that you saw it. Millions have seen it.   :-D
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Re: Movie Makers
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2008, 08:28:33 PM »
@ cecilia :
I may buy your cd next month. It seems interesting.

Tuesday, I am going to work on modeling the saturn V.
I found a drawing on Wikipedia.org.
Maybe this time I will finish the book that I bought.

Have a good day.
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Re: Movie Makers
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2008, 11:32:10 PM »
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trekiej wrote:
@ cecilia :
I may buy your cd next month. It seems interesting.
Thanks, I've enjoyed creating it. I've made sure it is chock full of useful scripts and info.

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Tuesday, I am going to work on modeling the saturn V.
I found a drawing on Wikipedia.org.
When my colleagues Tony Alderson and Mike Hoover were creating the Saturn Rocket it took them months. Not so much the modeling, but the textures. Tony and Frank (his business partner) went out to the parking lot and took pictures of the cement to use as texture maps.

Tony has to make these two shots of the Rocket on the launchpad as seen from a birds eye view. And they were Magnificent! They only stay on the screen for a few moments but took months to do. Tony was Very particular. And it shows.
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Re: Movie Makers
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2008, 01:03:58 AM »
I feel that one of my troubles will be knowing how long I will need to work on a particular model or scene.  I feel I could do the model in a day to a week but until it gets done will I realy know.
Good day.

I have done cad at school and we usually have a print to work from. Getting the data on a model is one of the challenges as I have found out.
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