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Re: a disaster
« Reply #29 from previous page: April 14, 2008, 03:27:33 PM »
So...how did you dry the bedroom carpet ?

(that'll get them going)
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Re: a disaster
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2008, 04:34:35 PM »
LOL...thankfuly it was laminate
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Re: a disaster
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2008, 11:22:55 PM »
Never use water, but use alcool instead !!!
Even if they are now safe, use alcool or a contact spray cleaner to protect them !!
Do it quickly !!!
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Re: a disaster
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2008, 02:35:39 AM »
possibly if u got an accelerator in one of ur 1200 it had a battery backuped clock on it, which the other 1200 and both a500 had not. it could cause some shorts in the logic while flooded. maybe this is a simple secret to the legendary "water proof" durability of the a500?
 

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Re: a disaster
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2008, 02:51:27 AM »
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What conclusion are we trying to draw here-- that even if you bathe the Amiga, it will still work as long as you dry it out for a week+ ?

I had a floppy drive that was really dirty and most disks failed on it.  I bathed it in water and tried after letting it dry for a month and it still does not work.  It was better when it was dirty.  Now it reads ZERO disks.  Seems like I killed something just by the bathing process.


Surely you are joking or exaggerating!  You didn't really try to clean a floppy drive in water, did you?
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Re: a disaster
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2008, 02:51:48 AM »
Double post problem.
How are you helping the Amiga community? :)
 

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Re: a disaster
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2008, 04:17:08 AM »
>Surely you are joking or exaggerating! You didn't really try to clean a floppy drive in water, did you?

I wasn't joking; given the seriousness of some of the issues I deal with, I try to state that I'm joking if I'm joking in order not to deceive anyone.

Just could not reach the interior of the floppy to clean with a cotton swab so decided to give it a bath only to find it became worse.  No one wanted it when I tried to give it away so I had to do something with it.

So the motor coil/parts would ruin with water-- what about the coil of wire around the power connector on the A500?  Is that a different type of coil?

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Re: a disaster
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2008, 04:21:19 AM »
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DoogUK wrote:

Maybe its because they had 2 n half days drying under heat.


Time must work differently there.
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Re: a disaster
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2008, 05:00:20 AM »
Geeze!   :-o

I just went through the same thing.  I definitely feel your pain.

I'm sure everybody else is offering you good advice.  The only thing I'll add is:
- remove/toss any batteries.
- Carefully take apart your computers to let them dry
- WD-40 to help reduce the risk of rust.
- run a fan across the wet stuff to increase evaporation
- rice does wonders in soaking up water

Good luck with your endeavors.  I hope you can save your machines.  Original hardware is getting so rare these days that replacing them is getting expensive.

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Re: a disaster
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2008, 10:15:55 AM »
quick update...the a1200 now works thankfuly but the accelerator is still dead.
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Re: a disaster
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2008, 08:04:26 PM »
The supradrive lives!

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Re: a disaster
« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2008, 11:21:26 PM »
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DoogUK wrote:
LOL...thankfuly it was laminate



In that case, I hope you used a fine haired mop.
I once had a spill on laminate and used a fine haired mop, left it a week to dry out and then it was fine to walk on.

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Re: a disaster
« Reply #41 on: April 16, 2008, 12:25:32 AM »
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the accelerator is still dead.

use a teebrush and electrical contact spray cleaner on the card and the connector !!!  :-?
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Re: a disaster
« Reply #42 on: April 16, 2008, 08:05:24 AM »
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ottomobiehl wrote:

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- rice does wonders in soaking up water
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Ahhhhh - no wonder that rice price is exploding worldwide, if food is abused this way...
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Re: a disaster
« Reply #43 on: April 16, 2008, 11:13:18 AM »
Im glad to hear everything appart from the accelerator is fine. Personally I would have chosen a lunchbox type container for the more expensive hardware. Bit late for 'could of's' now though.
 

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Re: a disaster
« Reply #44 on: October 31, 2008, 08:54:33 PM »
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ral-clan wrote:
I think it's pretty well known that you can use water to clean enclosed, non-moving components like a circuit board. The motherboard and components (mostly plastic) are all fairly inert things.  A bit of washing & drying won't hurt them (as long as they are not powered up at the time).  Some people have even put computer motherboards in the dish-washer (i.e. Amiga boards) and then allowed them to dry entirely, without problems.

However, you put a disk drive with moving, non-sealed components (i.e. the motors) in water. In a disk drive there are coil-wraps in the motors, other parts that can corrode, water absorbent materials (like the piece of felt opposite one of the drive heads & even cardboard components).  There are also lubricated/greased parts that can be harmed by water (the lubrication can be washed away).  Placing a disk-drive in water was a probably a mistake.

I also suspect that your problem was greater than dust contamination.  Probably head-misalignment.

Water cleaning is only intended for non-moving, inert, sealed components like motherboards, ICs, resistors, etc.

You could have removed just the circuit board from the disk drive and washed that, though, without worry.  In fact, I suspect the circuit board from your disk drive works just fine. It's just the mechanics that are faulty.

Now, in the case of a flood, where you have no choice, and even the moving parts are soaked, a weeks worth of drying is your only choice.


VERY WELL stated. I regularly have washed motherboards and dried them out with 100% success. You just gotta make sure they're dry and you don't do it with mechanical parts like motors. Duh...


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Feel your pain - my worse nightmare! Hope for the best recovery!