Please help me, and run this test on 68k Amiga!

[ddniUK]

Hi this is the output from my A1200.
Good luck with Natami!!

WhichAmiga 1.3.3 (2.5.99)
Written by Harry "Piru" Sintonen. Copyright © 1995-1999 PitPlane Productions.

Evaluating system...
Central Processing Unit: MC68060 64.0 MHz (rev 6)
    Floating Point Unit: 68060fpu
 Memory Management Unit: 68060mmu running
   Custom graphics chip: AGA Lisa 4203 (rev 0)
  Custom animation chip: AGA PAL Alice 8374, rev 3-4
   Other custom chip(s): Paula 8364 (rev 0), Gayle (rev 13)
        Graphics system: Picasso96
         Hardware Clock: clock found
 Max. Chipmem available: 2048 K
 Max. Fastmem available: 261120 K
       ROM chip version: 40.68 (Kickstart 3.1)
  ReKicked ROM, version: 45.57 (Kickstart unknown)
      Workbench version: 45.3 (Workbench unknown)
       SetPatch version: 44.38
     Expansion board(s):
2206/32: ELBOX-Computer MEDIATOR PCI 1200 busboard (@$00EA0000 128k)
2206/160: ELBOX-Computer MEDIATOR PCI 1200 Memorywindow 4/8 MB (@$00200000 8M)
8512/110: Phase 5 Digital Products Blizzard PPC SCSI (@$00F00C38 128k)
         


-------------------------------------------
Processor & Memory Performance Bench v4.20
-------------------------------------------
Stop all program before the test.
Do not use the computer during the test.
The test will run some minutes, please be patient.
Total memory required = 4.2 MB.
Calibration loops: 4
-------------------------------------------
Comparing different CPU functions:
Results are in million instructions per sec.
Higher value is faster.
CPU-Benchmark      2MB   16KB    4KB    1KB
-------------------------------------------
addi             117.4  117.2  115.2  108.3
shift            118.4  117.0  115.2  109.2
mix              117.9  116.5  114.2  108.8
mul               32.0   32.0   31.9   31.3
bra-un            10.9   10.8   10.8   10.7
bra-pre           40.7   40.7   40.4   39.2
bsr                5.1    5.1    5.1    5.0
nop                7.3    7.3    7.3    7.3
-------------------------------------------
Measuring memory latency:
Result is Million random accesses per sec.
Higher value is faster.
Memory Latency     2MB   16KB    4KB    1KB
-------------------------------------------
random read        3.8
-------------------------------------------
Measuring memory throughput:
Results are in MB/sec. Higher value is faster.
Memory 2 Memory
Alignment 0-0      2MB   16KB    4KB    1KB
-------------------------------------------
glibc memcpy      45.7   45.0   43.6   40.5
read 8            26.6   26.6   26.5   26.4
read 16           43.3   43.2   43.1   42.4
read 32           51.6   51.5   51.4   50.7
read 32x4         47.4   47.3   47.2   46.4
read 32x4B        51.4   51.5   51.3   50.4
write 8           32.0   32.1   31.9   31.5
write 16          36.8   36.8   36.7   36.3
write 32          36.8   36.8   36.8   36.4
write 32x4        36.9   36.8   36.7   36.4
write 32x4B       36.8   36.8   36.7   36.4
copy 8            30.6   30.3   29.6   28.0
copy 32           45.6   45.2   44.6   42.1
copy 32x4         43.0   42.8   42.6   41.3
copy 32x4B        42.1   41.9   41.8   40.5
-------------------------------------------
Cache 2 Cache
Alignment 0-0      2MB   16KB    4KB    1KB
-------------------------------------------
glibc memcpy      45.7   44.0  223.5  238.9
read 8            26.6   27.3   32.6   32.8
read 16           43.2   47.7  124.6  128.4
read 32           51.6   58.1  235.9  250.2
read 32x4         47.3   52.5  162.5  168.8
read 32x4B        51.6   58.2  240.4  248.6
write 8           32.1   34.3   63.1   64.5
write 16          36.8   39.2   64.5   65.3
write 32          36.9   41.0  125.8  129.0
write 32x4        36.8   41.9  234.6  249.8
write 32x4B       36.9   41.7  190.1  202.0
copy 8            30.6   29.0   55.9   57.8
copy 32           45.7   44.1  225.0  244.4
copy 32x4         43.0   43.9  226.0  242.4
copy 32x4B        42.0   42.8  186.4  196.4
-------------------------------------------

[a1200]

Can't run it on my 2MB A600, even with nothing but DH0: enabled, booting with no startup sequence etc. I bet it doesn't work on a 68000 anyway.... its so old! lol

[biggun]

wawrzon wrote:
lets start the orgy then.
i still would like to see how an a4k and a1k2 030 behaves, but it occures all the a4ks have already 040 built in and i am too tired now to swap the cpu-board again. maybe tomorrow.

cheers


a1k2_040-50 (blizzard?):

PROCESSOR:      CPU 68040/68882fpu
CUSTOM CHIPS:   AA PAL Alice (id=$0023), AA Lisa (id=$00F8)
VERS:   Kickstart version 39.106, Exec version 39.47, Disk version 39.29
RAM:    Node type $A, Attributes $5 (FAST), at $68000000-$68FFFFFF (16.0 meg)
        Node type $A, Attributes $703 (CHIP), at $1000-$1FFFFF (~2.0 meg)
    BOARDS:
     Board + ROM (HD?) (unidentified):   Prod=8512/17($2140/$11) (@$EA0000 128K)

-------------------------------------------
Processor & Memory Performance Bench v4.20
-------------------------------------------
Stop all program before the test.
Do not use the computer during the test.
The test will run some minutes, please be patient.
Total memory required = 4.2 MB.
Calibration loops: 3
-------------------------------------------
Comparing different CPU functions:
Results are in million instructions per sec.
Higher value is faster.
CPU-Benchmark      2MB   16KB    4KB    1KB
-------------------------------------------
addi              90.7   90.6   89.3   84.8
shift             92.0   91.2   90.5   85.6
mix               91.7   91.1   89.9   84.9
mul               24.9   24.8   24.8   24.4
bra-un             8.5    8.4    8.5    8.4
bra-pre           31.6   31.5   31.4   30.9
bsr                3.9    3.9    3.9    3.9
nop                5.7    5.7    5.6    5.6
-------------------------------------------
Measuring memory latency:
Result is Million random accesses per sec.
Higher value is faster.
Memory Latency     2MB   16KB    4KB    1KB
-------------------------------------------
random read        2.7
-------------------------------------------
Measuring memory throughput:
Results are in MB/sec. Higher value is faster.
Memory 2 Memory
Alignment 0-0      2MB   16KB    4KB    1KB
-------------------------------------------
glibc memcpy      31.8   31.6   31.4   30.5
read 8            19.9   19.9   19.9   19.8
read 16           31.2   31.2   31.2   30.9
read 32           37.0   36.9   36.8   36.5
read 32x4         33.9   33.9   33.8   33.4
read 32x4B        37.0   36.9   36.8   36.4
write 8           23.9   23.9   23.9   23.6
write 16          25.3   25.3   25.2   25.1
write 32          25.3   25.3   25.3   25.1
write 32x4        25.3   25.3   25.3   25.1
write 32x4B       25.3   25.3   25.3   25.2
copy 8            22.6   22.3   21.5   21.8
copy 32           31.7   31.5   30.6   30.3
copy 32x4         30.1   30.0   29.8   28.7
copy 32x4B        29.5   29.4   29.3   28.2
-------------------------------------------
Cache 2 Cache
Alignment 0-0      2MB   16KB    4KB    1KB
-------------------------------------------
glibc memcpy      31.8   30.6  173.7  184.8
read 8            19.9   20.6   25.4   25.5
read 16           31.2   34.8   97.1   99.9
read 32           37.0   42.0  184.3  197.1
read 32x4         33.9   38.0  125.6  131.3
read 32x4B        37.0   41.7  177.3  195.5
write 8           23.9   25.8   49.6   50.5
write 16          25.3   27.4   50.3   50.8
write 32          25.3   28.5   98.4  100.2
write 32x4        25.4   29.1  181.0  194.3
write 32x4B       25.3   28.9  150.0  158.5
copy 8            22.6   23.2   43.9   44.8
copy 32           31.7   33.6  177.0  192.9
copy 32x4         30.1   30.3  174.2  190.4
copy 32x4B        29.5   29.6  145.6  153.5
-------------------------------------------

Hi,

Are you sure that this is a 68040 system?

Your result looks 100% like a 50MHz 68060.
A 68060 can execute 2 instructions per clock.
Which means that a 50 MHz 060 will reach 90-100 in the first three CPU tests (addi,shift,mix)
A 68060 only needs 2 clocks for a multiplication, which means it will reach a score of 25 in mul test.

A 68040 would be much slower at the same clockspeed.

Cheers

[Damion]

This is from another Apollo 1260/80 MHz system:

addi             148.1  147.1  144.7  136.5
shift            148.3  147.6  145.0  136.7
mix              147.9  147.6  145.1  136.1
mul               40.4   40.3   40.1   39.4
bra-un            13.6   13.6   13.7   13.7
bra-pre           51.3   51.1   50.9   49.8
bsr                6.4    6.4    6.4    6.4
nop                9.2    9.2    9.2    9.1
-------------------------------------------
Measuring memory latency:
Result is Million random accesses per sec.
Higher value is faster.
Memory Latency     2MB   16KB    4KB    1KB
-------------------------------------------
random read        2.9
-------------------------------------------
Measuring memory throughput:
Results are in MB/sec. Higher value is faster.
Memory 2 Memory
Alignment 0-0      2MB   16KB    4KB    1KB
-------------------------------------------
glibc memcpy      34.5   34.4   34.2   33.1
read 8            26.5   26.4   26.3   26.0
read 16           36.6   36.5   36.4   35.8
read 32           41.2   41.0   40.9   40.1
read 32x4         38.7   38.7   38.5   37.9
read 32x4B        41.2   41.0   40.9   40.1
write 8           27.3   27.3   27.2   26.8
write 16          27.3   27.3   27.2   26.9
write 32          27.4   27.3   27.2   27.0
write 32x4        27.3   27.3   27.2   26.9
write 32x4B       27.3   27.3   27.2   26.9
copy 8            29.3   29.2   29.0   28.1
copy 32           34.5   34.4   34.2   33.1
copy 32x4         32.8   32.7   32.5   31.4
copy 32x4B        32.8   32.7   32.5   31.4
-------------------------------------------
Cache 2 Cache
Alignment 0-0      2MB   16KB    4KB    1KB
-------------------------------------------
glibc memcpy      34.5   33.7  259.1  297.6
read 8            26.5   27.9   40.8   41.4
read 16           36.6   41.0  153.8  161.4
read 32           41.2   47.0  287.9  314.7
read 32x4         38.8   43.6  196.3  212.1
read 32x4B        41.1   47.1  273.3  311.5
write 8           27.3   30.1   79.1   81.9
write 16          27.3   30.2   80.2   82.2
write 32          27.3   31.0  154.6  161.9
write 32x4        27.3   31.3  282.3  314.1
write 32x4B       27.4   31.2  232.5  253.2
copy 8            29.3   30.0   70.0   72.7
copy 32           34.5   36.5  268.5  308.4
copy 32x4         32.8   33.0  262.7  303.6
copy 32x4B        32.8   33.0  220.4  247.7
-------------------------------------------

[McVenco]

biggun wrote:

The test needs 2MB free memory and it needs ixemul.library.

And where can one find that library?

[biggun]

Here is the result of the Coldfire 54455@266MHz
The 54455 is an embedded CF with 16bit bus.

I think the 266MHz V4m is CPU wise roughly comparable
to a 68060 with 130 MHz
to a 68040 with 280 MHz
to a 68030 with 600 MHz

-------------------------------------------                                    
Processor & Memory Performance Bench v4.20                                      
-------------------------------------------                                    
Stop all program before the test.                                              
Do not use the computer during the test.                                        
The test will run some minutes, please be patient.                              
Total memory required = 4.2 MB.                                                
Calibration loops: 8                                                            
-------------------------------------------                                    
Comparing different CPU functions:                                              
Results are in million instructions per sec.                                    
Higher value is faster.                                                        
CPU-Benchmark      2MB   16KB    4KB    1KB                                    
-------------------------------------------                                    
addi             251.3  251.3  251.3  251.3                                    
shift            293.2  293.2  251.3  251.3                                    
mix              439.8  439.8  439.8  439.8                                    
mul               67.7   67.7   67.7   65.2                                    
bra-un            41.9   42.9   40.9   41.9                                    
bra-pre          117.3  117.3  117.3  109.9                                    
bsr               13.3   13.4   13.3   13.2                                    
nop               45.1   44.0   44.0   44.0                                    
-------------------------------------------                                    
Measuring memory latency:                                                      
Result is Million random accesses per sec.                                      
Higher value is faster.                                                        
Memory Latency     2MB   16KB    4KB    1KB                                    
-------------------------------------------                                    
random read        1.0                                                          
-------------------------------------------                                    
Measuring memory throughput:                                                    
Results are in MB/sec. Higher value is faster.                                  
Memory 2 Memory                                                                
Alignment 0-0      2MB   16KB    4KB    1KB                                    
-------------------------------------------                                    
glibc memcpy      67.7   67.7   66.4   56.7                                    
read 8            81.8   74.9   74.9   69.0                                    
read 16           95.1   95.1   95.1   88.0                                    
read 32          121.3  121.3  117.3  109.9                                    
read 32x4        121.3  121.3  121.3  106.6                                    
read 32x4B       121.3  121.3  117.3  106.6                                    
write 8           13.1   13.2   13.2   13.0                                    
write 16          26.1   26.1   26.1   25.5                                    
write 32          51.0   51.0   51.0   48.9                                    
write 32x4        51.7   51.0   51.0   48.9                                    
write 32x4B      185.2  185.2  175.9  153.0                                    
copy 8            23.3   23.3   23.3   22.0                                    
copy 32           67.7   67.7   67.7   57.7                                    
copy 32x4         65.2   65.2   65.2   55.8                                    
copy 32x4B       117.3  121.3  117.3   90.2                                    
-------------------------------------------                                    
Cache 2 Cache                                                                  
Alignment 0-0      2MB   16KB    4KB    1KB                                    
-------------------------------------------                                    
glibc memcpy      67.7  106.6  106.6  103.5                                    
read 8            74.9   92.6  140.7  135.3                                    
read 16           92.6  125.7  219.9  219.9                                    
read 32          121.3  175.9  586.4  502.6                                    
read 32x4        121.3  185.2  703.7  703.7                                    
read 32x4B       121.3  185.2  879.6  879.6                                    
write 8           13.2   13.3   13.3   13.3                                    
write 16          26.1   26.7   26.7   26.7                                    
write 32          51.0   53.3   53.3   52.5                                    
write 32x4        51.0   53.3   53.3   53.3                                    
write 32x4B      185.2  207.0  207.0  207.0                                    
copy 8            23.1   23.8   26.7   26.7                                    
copy 32           67.7  100.5  106.6  103.5                                    
copy 32x4         65.2  103.5  106.6  103.5                                    
copy 32x4B       117.3  439.8  390.9  390.9                                    
-------------------------------------------

[wawrzon]

@biggun: "Are you sure that this is a 68040 system?"
my mistake! sure its 060 (corrected), ive only turned it yesterday for the first time since a year and didnt realize the old showconfig desnt recognize the cpu properly.

do you still need an a4k 030 benchmark? (i dont think so)

the results of the test are not really in favour of the coldfire. am i right that it doesnt contain a fpu unit? (which would render it still little less usable)

[biggun]

wawrzon wrote:

@biggun: "Are you sure that this is a 68040 system?"
my mistake! sure its 060 (corrected), ive only turned it yesterday for the first time since a year and didnt realize the old showconfig desnt recognize the cpu properly.

do you still need an a4k 030 benchmark? (i dont think so)

the results of the test are not really in favour of the coldfire. am i right that it doesnt contain a fpu unit? (which would render it still little less usable)

A 030@25Mhz would be interesting but only if its no hassle.

>the results of the test are not really in favour of the coldfire.
> am i right that it doesnt contain a fpu unit

The 54455 is the tiniest of the V4 Coldfires.
It has no FPU and only a 16 Bit bus.

There are other V4 Coldfires available that have more on chip cache, that have a FPU and that have 32Bit memory bus.

And the used V4m is a bit handicapped by the memory on dev-board. The memory is 16-bit and its DD2 memory.
Using DD2 memory makes sense if you have a very high clocked CPU. When you use it with a rather low clocked CPU the result will only be that you increase the memory latency.

A V4 with better memory (32bit) will have noticeable higher memory performance.

I leaning to use the V5 Coldfire.
From what I have read about the V5 Coldfire, I understand that the CPU performance should be about 3 times faster than the tested V4m.

Cheers

[adonay]

Seems there are sertin tests dealing with cache 2 cache that proves to be faster on a real 060 what is the reason for this ? V5 write 8 13.2 13.3 13.3 13.3 my 060 write 8 26.2 28.9 75.9 78.

[wawrzon]

@last: the 030/25mhz
the machine has only 6megs ram since im just putting it together but as far as i recall from previous tests the amount of memory is not significant.

Central Processing Unit: MC68EC030 24.8 MHz
Floating Point Unit: MC68882
Memory Management Unit: not available
Custom graphics chip: AGA Lisa 4203 (rev 0)
Custom animation chip: AGA PAL Alice 8374, rev 3-4
Other custom chip(s): Paula 8364 (rev 0), Ramsey (rev 15), Gary (rev 0), Gayle (rev
Graphics system: Amiga AGA  display bandwidth: 4x
Hardware Clock: clock found
Max. Chipmem available: 2048 K
Max. Fastmem available: 4096 K
ROM chip version: 40.68 (Kickstart 3.1)
Workbench version: 40.42 (Workbench 3.1)
SetPatch version: 40.16
                           
Your computer is an Amiga 4000.
                             

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Processor & Memory Performance Bench v4.20
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Stop all program before the test.
Do not use the computer during the test.
The test will run some minutes, please be patient.
Total memory required = 1.0 MB.
Calibration loops: 2
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Comparing different CPU functions:
Results are in million instructions per sec.
Higher value is faster.
CPU-Benchmark    512KB   16KB    4KB    1KB
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addi              10.1   10.1    9.9    9.2
shift              5.6    5.6    5.6    5.5
mix               10.1   10.1   10.1    9.4
mul                0.9    0.9    0.9    0.9
bra-un             2.1    2.1    2.1    2.1
bra-pre            2.5    2.5    2.5    2.5
bsr                1.5    1.5    1.5    1.5
nop               10.2   10.1   10.1    9.5
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Measuring memory latency:
Result is Million random accesses per sec.
Higher value is faster.
Memory Latency   512KB   16KB    4KB    1KB
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random read        2.4
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Measuring memory throughput:
Results are in MB/sec. Higher value is faster.
Memory 2 Memory
Alignment 0-0    512KB   16KB    4KB    1KB
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glibc memcpy      11.3   11.2   11.1   10.7
read 8             1.9    1.9    1.9    1.9
read 16            3.6    3.6    3.6    3.6
read 32            6.3    6.3    6.3    6.3
read 32x4          8.2    8.2    8.1    8.0
read 32x4B        10.1   10.1   10.1    9.9
write 8            2.4    2.3    2.3    2.3
write 16           5.1    5.1    5.1    5.0
write 32          10.1   10.1   10.1    9.9
write 32x4        13.9   14.3   14.3   14.0
write 32x4B       11.5   11.5   11.4   11.3
copy 8             3.0    2.9    2.9    2.9
copy 32           11.7   11.8   11.8   11.6
copy 32x4         13.4   13.3   13.2   12.6
copy 32x4B        11.1   11.2   11.1   10.7
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Cache 2 Cache
Alignment 0-0    512KB   16KB    4KB    1KB
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glibc memcpy      11.2   11.3   11.2   10.8
read 8             1.9    1.9    1.9    1.9
read 16            3.6    3.6    3.6    3.6
read 32            6.3    6.3    6.3    6.3
read 32x4          8.2    8.2    8.1    8.0
read 32x4B        10.1   10.1   10.0    9.9
write 8            2.4    2.3    2.3    2.3
write 16           5.1    5.1    5.0    5.0
write 32          10.1   10.1   10.0   10.0
write 32x4        14.1   14.3   14.3   13.9
write 32x4B       11.4   11.5   11.4   11.3
copy 8             3.0    2.9    2.9    2.9
copy 32           11.9   11.8   11.7   11.6
copy 32x4         13.1   13.2   13.0   12.7
copy 32x4B        11.1   11.1   11.1   10.8
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[biggun]

Thanks for all your help.

The information is very useful to me.
I made some stats out of the results I feel they provide a good overview. I'm not sure how to best visualize this here.

In short:
The 68K emul on MOS-PPC seems to more efficient than on x86-UAE (clock by clock).
A 1000 MHz G4 is about as effective in 68k emulation as a Core2Duo with 1500 Mhz.

The 16bit-Coldfire-V4m is performance wise roughly
in the middle between original 68060@50 and AONE@1000Mhz running 68k-Jit.


Cheers
Gunnar

[wawrzon]

but... i thought multicore cpus arent supported by uae anyway. in this case the correct statement would be that 1500mhz x86 equals 1000mhz g4 in executing 68k code?

[a1200]

@biggun

Forget all this benchmarking stuff, I have a question... is that woman in the pic your other half? If it is, I think if I were you I would be on my Amiga less and in the bedroom more!

Scheeerwinggggg!

[biggun]

a1200 wrote:
@biggun

Forget all this benchmarking stuff, I have a question... is that woman in the pic your other half?

LOL.
Yes this is Anja my wife. :-)
BTW I've been through this already, we have two kids now.

[biggun]

adonay wrote:
Seems there are sertin tests dealing with cache 2 cache that proves to be faster on a real 060 what is the reason for this ? V5 write 8 13.2 13.3 13.3 13.3 my 060 write 8 26.2 28.9 75.9 78.

To prevent any misunderstandings,
the CF that I've tested was not the V5 but the V4m.
(I'm still a waiting to get the my V5 board)

You are absolutely right with your observation:
"write 8 13.2 13.3 13.3 13.3"
This looks very suspicious.

I think the memory of the V4 is setup differently to the other machine.
I looks to me is the V4m is set up to "write through" instead of "copyback mode". I'm probably measuring something complete wrong here.

I'll check this