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DF1: P R O B L E M ?!?!?
« on: April 05, 2008, 08:29:19 PM »
Hello,

I opened my desktop A1200 and I wanted to connect external

CD-Rom with IdeFix Express. I hooked Idefix Express to an

external Cd-Rom with its own power supply. But when I have

to install IdeFix put Install 3.1 into df0: and Ifefix

disk into DF1: but DF1: do not appear. I tried several

external FDD but always DF1: do not appear.

Thinking that was a lack of Power I powered and AmigaKid

DF1: with its own power supply and hocked this secon drive

to a dual FDD cable. But same problem DF1: won't appear.


How can I do to make DF1: work ??????????


Because I cannot install idefix express floppy because it

requires Install 3.1 and then go to write datas of the

disks and the disk become full!!!!



I need 2 Floppy Disk Drivers to do the installation!

What can I do?


Please help me!!!

Many Thanks

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Re: DF1: P R O B L E M ?!?!?
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2008, 08:35:44 PM »
Put a hard drive inside your A1200 and install Workbench on that first. WB3+ really does want to be run from a hard drive.
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Re: DF1: P R O B L E M ?!?!?
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2008, 08:37:17 PM »
Ah I forgot I do have an iternal HD 2.5 !!!

But don't know why : nothing to do the Amiga doesn't wanna

see the DF1:!!!


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Re: DF1: P R O B L E M ?!?!?
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2008, 11:29:46 PM »
Hi

Is the port busted. Put your Workbench disk in DF1 ... which I assume is your external floppy drive.. Then BOOT. Keep both mouse buttons depressed [ down ] and wait for the early boot screen. Select Boot Options. If DF1 is there then select to boot from here. If not or doesn`t work then probably the port is busted. I wouldn`t muck about.. Get a replacement motherboard from Ebay. Otherwise you will be struggling a touch.

Why not use IDEFix97 from the one floppy drive and boot from the hard drive... Unclear.

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Re: DF1: P R O B L E M ?!?!?
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2008, 11:39:15 PM »
The Amiga do not want to boot from DF1: if I enter in the Menu by holding both mouse buttons. And my HD has been formatted so I do not have WB inside in order to install IdeFix. What do u think? What can I do? Is my Mobo broken?

Let me know,

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Re: DF1: P R O B L E M ?!?!?
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2008, 11:52:10 PM »
why do you need to install from df1: when u can use first df0: drive unless its broken, l tryed to get game working from eternal drive with my amiga 2000 because the first drive stoped booting game discs, with early startup screen just made the second external drive lower prriorty in the boot screen it worked for little while but then looked to the orginal internal drive. l oh by the way whn first got into cdroms l used a external cdrom ide just powered with pc psu all sitting on desk not ideal but does work remember with ide and standred 1200 port u have to keep ide cable very short, am not sure with buffered ide express l think its finewell must be because l ran internal ide cdrom and 3 1/2 ide inside the 1200 case it will fit . and had 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 cable which l think whould be the best solution for you . short term anyways
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Re: DF1: P R O B L E M ?!?!?
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2008, 11:57:44 PM »
Have you tried stripping the amiga down to bare system, and only boot from DF1?

Most likely your external floppy port is dead...

However, install WB 3.1 to a hard drive. It is what is was meant to do. And then install IDEfix.
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Re: DF1: P R O B L E M ?!?!?
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2008, 01:52:24 AM »
I booted from DF1: Nuttin to do.

But even if the DF1: port seems to be dead is not true

because I hooked another FDD with the dual cable connector

I mean the FDD for the tower , another DF1: and this is not

on the DF1: port and this is not working also!!!!!


So ... What can the the cause and the solution of me

problem?
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Re: DF1: P R O B L E M ?!?!?
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2008, 04:47:07 AM »
The controller may be dead.
If i not am completely wrong, the CIAs controls the FDD.
CIAs on any amiga is easily damaged...
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Re: DF1: P R O B L E M ?!?!?
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2008, 12:30:34 PM »
You're very lucky these days ! Arent't you ?

So, be a warrior !
Be sure about plugs orientations !!!!!
Use your Install 3.1 disk to create a short bootable partition (10 mb with standard parameters) and format it.
Then restart and open a shell/CLI
COPY ALL FROM DF0: TO HDD:
Rename your HDD: partition name to Install3.1 (like the disk).
Reboot without any floppy.
You now must have the minimal 3.1 component on your machine working ! if not .... retry and post what happen.

Then, put the IDEFIX floppy, you'll need to install it 2 times !!! The 1st one it will update the IDE device then reboot, and the 2nd it will check for HDD/CD/DVD drives.

This is how I made kick install on my miggys
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Re: DF1: P R O B L E M ?!?!?
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2008, 02:24:38 PM »
I installed OS3.1, IderFix , and OS 3.9 with one floppy

but I continue to not see the DF1: what should I do?

Do I have to change mobo?

I remember that before opening the desktop to hook the

IdeFix Express tre DF1: worked fine!!!!

So ?
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Re: DF1: P R O B L E M ?!?!?
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2008, 03:08:32 PM »
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I remember that before opening the desktop to hook the IdeFix Express tre DF1: worked fine!!!!

so:
Try without the IDEfix.
I fact, try removing all parts and boot with only the DF1 to see if it works. If it still do not work, you may have to change the motherboard.
If it works without the IDEfix, it is over my head...
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Re: DF1: P R O B L E M ?!?!?
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2008, 03:13:51 PM »
Tried without IdeFix ... DF1: doesn't exist.

Is the motherboard fried ?

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Re: DF1: P R O B L E M ?!?!?
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2008, 03:18:04 PM »
I'm confused,

Is DF1 an internal, or an external drive in your setup?
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Re: DF1: P R O B L E M ?!?!?
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2008, 03:30:21 PM »
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Is the motherboard fried ?

Hard to tell at this moment. You need to find someone who knows how to test CIAs if they operate bad...
(if the CIAs controls the floppy, that is...)
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder