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Re: Completely Dumb 32 User Quezzies
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2008, 04:08:14 PM »
Whoah!

Thanks for the feedback chaps.  My mistake - I was referring to the 'AUX' port all along - it's not marked 'expansion' at all - nicely sussed.

@ Speelgoedmannetje - since you've made a cdtv-to-cd32 keyboard adapter - does this then mean that the cd32 has all the necessary keyboard controller circuitry on the mainboard?

If so, do you think it likely that a PS2 keyboard adapter (i.e. the IBMKey design) can be hacked to work with it?

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Re: Completely Dumb 32 User Quezzies
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2008, 04:13:07 PM »
Dunno, but you can find more about the aux port in the Amiga CD32 FAQ:
part 1
part 2
Here I got the info how to make myself an RGB output for my CD32, and the information to make this adapter, too.

-edit- yes it's possible, but you have to find the pinout of ps/2 (and make sure you rewire that for instance the keyboard data pin of ps/2 will be redirected to the keyboard data pin of the aux port)
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Re: Completely Dumb 32 User Quezzies
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2008, 04:19:35 PM »
Brilliant - thanks for links!
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Re: Completely Dumb 32 User Quezzies
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2008, 04:21:50 PM »
You're welcome :-)
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Re: Completely Dumb 32 User Quezzies
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2008, 04:24:17 PM »
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I dunno about the control pad though... although, are you talking about the compotition pro pads? i think they released a range covering the cd32, snes, and megadrive? the snes and cd32 pads being visually identical?

Nah, I was just referring to the standard CD32 Pad and the standard SNES pad. They have the same button configuration, with the exception of one button.



The original CD32 controllers were a monstrosity in my opinion. Uncomfortable and unwieldy. I love the feel of the old SNES controllers. I'd love to set one up for my CD32. I re-wired a few NES game pads for my Amiga 500 back in the day. It didn't take much to figure which pin did what, but unfortunately I don't actually have a CD32 controller to figure out the pins with. Maybe google will turn up something.
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Re: Completely Dumb 32 User Quezzies
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2008, 04:26:22 PM »
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It's Aussie, not Ozzie. ;-)


In Holland, an Aussie is something completely different. But thank god that that time is over....

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Despite me being a gabbertje at that time, I feel in no way responsible for that. I've never had one, nor did I ever wanted one. I hated those chavs! :-D

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Re: Completely Dumb 32 User Quezzies
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2008, 04:44:30 PM »
I just came back from amsterdam on monday. Loved the place.

But the most expensive city I have ever visitied.
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Re: Completely Dumb 32 User Quezzies
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2008, 05:09:23 PM »
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I dunno about the control pad though... although, are you talking about the compotition pro pads? i think they released a range covering the cd32, snes, and megadrive? the snes and cd32 pads being visually identical?

Nah, I was just referring to the standard CD32 Pad and the standard SNES pad. They have the same button configuration, with the exception of one button.



The original CD32 controllers were a monstrosity in my opinion. Uncomfortable and unwieldy. I love the feel of the old SNES controllers. I'd love to set one up for my CD32. I re-wired a few NES game pads for my Amiga 500 back in the day. It didn't take much to figure which pin did what, but unfortunately I don't actually have a CD32 controller to figure out the pins with. Maybe google will turn up something.
The honeybee joypad would be more to your liking, I think:
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Re: Completely Dumb 32 User Quezzies
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2008, 05:10:38 PM »
Can you still buy them new?
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Re: Completely Dumb 32 User Quezzies
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2008, 05:20:14 PM »
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Can you still buy them new?
Hm, I thought it was, but now I can't find it anymore...
But there's still this CD32 controller available at AmigaKit, which looks quite nice.
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Re: Completely Dumb 32 User Quezzies
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2008, 05:29:39 PM »
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Despite me being a gabbertje at that time, I feel in no way responsible for that. I've never had one, nor did I ever wanted one. I hated those chavs! :-D

(btw. it's the Netherlands, not Holland. bunch of Randstad imperialists!)


Ah, a fellow gabber :-D

I still have 2 of those Aussie "suits" lying in some cupboard far far away... (with Nikes and DJ Paul t-shirt to match :-))

And Holland, Netherlands... same difference for all foreigners... mostly they know Holland better than the Netherlands. I'm from Brabant anyway :-)

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Re: Completely Dumb 32 User Quezzies
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2008, 05:31:41 PM »
I think I might buy one of the standard CD32 pads from AmigaKit. Just so I can have an original. Then I can use it as a model of comparison to rewire a SNES pad.

I've got a few Sega Megadrive pads here. I've heard they can be encouraged to work on a CD32. Anyone here tried that before?
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Re: Completely Dumb 32 User Quezzies
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2008, 06:00:29 PM »
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

Despite me being a gabbertje at that time, I feel in no way responsible for that. I've never had one, nor did I ever wanted one. I hated those chavs! :-D

(btw. it's the Netherlands, not Holland. bunch of Randstad imperialists!)


Ah, a fellow gabber :-D

I still have 2 of those Aussie "suits" lying in some cupboard far far away... (with Nikes and DJ Paul t-shirt to match :-))

I never had such! Never wanted it! And no I'm not in denial, I just was more an 'underground' gabber. :-)

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And Holland, Netherlands... same difference for all foreigners... mostly they know Holland better than the Netherlands. I'm from Brabant anyway :-)
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No it's not to me! We here are Frisians and Saxons, and no Batavians, quite different ppl. You ain't gonna say either that Scottish are English, eh?
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Re: Completely Dumb 32 User Quezzies
« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2008, 06:03:20 PM »
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I've got a few Sega Megadrive pads here. I've heard they can be encouraged to work on a CD32. Anyone here tried that before?
Well, I've tried it on my normal Amiga 500, and it indeed needs to be 'encouraged', that is, click a couple of times on all the buttons before it works. But still, it doesn't really works nice. I think it delivers a somewhat different signal on the same lines.
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Re: Completely Dumb 32 User Quezzies
« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2008, 06:56:18 PM »
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I just came back from amsterdam on monday. Loved the place.

But the most expensive city I have ever visitied.


Ever been to Dublin? ;-)
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Re: Completely Dumb 32 User Quezzies
« Reply #29 from previous page: April 03, 2008, 07:03:58 PM »
Right, the thing with joypads with more than 7 functions (up, down, left, right, 3 x fire) is that they weren't simply one wire to one switch, thus requiring a more advanced protocol. The SNES and CD32 both fall into this category, and you can be sure their protocols are different. This would mean not only rewiring the small contacts inside, but also transferring over the communications chips from one to the other. A lot more difficult than changing a C64 joystick to a Spectrum one ;) The reason a Megadrive one will (partially) work on a CD32 is that they both retain the old Atari compatibility for the D-pad and one or two of the buttons, and only the remaining buttons need encoding to fit on the remaining pins.
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