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Re: Commodore 128 tower project continued!
« Reply #44 from previous page: April 05, 2008, 12:07:05 PM »
Maybe it would work ok with just the LED and a resistor - Even on AC (The LED is a diode in itself)? OK, maybe the led would flash at 50Hz :crazy: , but this shouldn't be much of a problem.

Hey, maybe you could just use one of those LED's with a built in resistor?

Just a thought (Nicely done anyhow),
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EDIT: What's the relay switching? The 9VAC side or the mains side of the transformer? If im right in saying it’s a reed relay; they aren’t normally designed to switch much current. Maybe a 100mA or so at most, and not usually mains either.

EDIT2: Hey, what about having a high current relay, controlled from the ATX PSU, switching the mains side of the transformer? That way, you can save on the energy costs of having the transformer powered up all the time, and you can use a neon indicator (W. resistor of course) on the mains side rather than trying to use a LED.
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Re: Commodore 128 tower project continued!
« Reply #45 on: April 05, 2008, 02:33:31 PM »
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Now does the ATX switch behave like it does in an ATX mobo system - eg one tap shuts down from the system or press and hold to "sleep" or what? :-)


No, it actually behaves like an AT system. Either completely on or completely off.
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Re: Commodore 128 tower project continued!
« Reply #46 on: April 05, 2008, 02:59:04 PM »
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Maybe it would work ok with just the LED and a resistor - Even on AC (The LED is a diode in itself)? OK, maybe the led would flash at 50Hz  , but this shouldn't be much of a problem.


I thought about that, but I figured making a bridge rectifier should be easy enough and it was. I even added a capacitor to smooth out the pulse. The led looks rock solid when lite. BTW we have 60hz @ ~120V on this side of the pond.

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EDIT: What's the relay switching? The 9VAC side or the mains side of the transformer? If im right in saying it’s a reed relay; they aren’t normally designed to switch much current. Maybe a 100mA or so at most, and not usually mains either.


It is indeed a reed relay and it is on the 9VAC side, not the main. I could have put it on the main side, it is rated for 1A at 125V. C128 brick power supplies are rated for 1A for 9VAC, so this can easily handle it.

The step down transformer I am using for 9VAC is freaking huge, only because it was the best/cheapest I could find for this project in a quick search. It is completely and entirely overkill for this application. It is a multi-tap transformer with only the 9VAC being used and it is rated at like 2A on the main side. It was cheap, it cost me about $6 + shipping. The main electronics houses here didn't have anything even close in stock.

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EDIT2: Hey, what about having a high current relay, controlled from the ATX PSU, switching the mains side of the transformer? That way, you can save on the energy costs of having the transformer powered up all the time, and you can use a neon indicator (W. resistor of course) on the mains side rather than trying to use a LED.


I was originally thinking about putting this relay on the main side, but I decided I didn't want exposed 120V inside the case. Yeah I probably could have mounted this board in the PS itself, but I didn't feel comfortable doing that. The transformer will be energized all the time, but how much loss can it really have idle? It can't be much. I can always still switch off the ATX switch, which will kill it too. It picks up power after the ATX switch.

Thanks for the great comments and suggestions! :-)
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Re: Commodore 128 tower project continued!
« Reply #47 on: April 05, 2008, 09:54:32 PM »
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It is indeed a reed relay and it is on the 9VAC side, not the main. I could have put it on the main side, it is rated for 1A at 125V. C128 brick power supplies are rated for 1A for 9VAC, so this can easily handle it.
 


Doh! Looks like the reed relay was a bad choice, the coil failed. I probably should have put a current limiting resistor before the coil. Back to Radio shack..
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Re: Commodore 128 tower project continued!
« Reply #48 on: April 06, 2008, 05:03:55 PM »
Doh. ;-) Coil O/C? That’s odd...The only time we've had that happen is when the relay was virtually full with water for half a year...

I'd still advise a nice chunky standard relay :rtfm:

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Re: Commodore 128 tower project continued!
« Reply #49 on: April 06, 2008, 05:35:26 PM »
Cripes, it has an OS!? Will a HD connect to a 128?
 

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Re: Commodore 128 tower project continued!
« Reply #50 on: April 06, 2008, 07:33:37 PM »
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I'd still advise a nice chunky standard relay :rtfm:


Maybe, but I hate the chunkiness..
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Re: Commodore 128 tower project continued!
« Reply #51 on: April 07, 2008, 12:44:03 AM »
This is a nice project...

The C= 128 motherboard looks lovely too.
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Re: Commodore 128 tower project continued!
« Reply #52 on: April 07, 2008, 12:56:48 AM »
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Running Geos128.


Now that's just cool 8-)
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Re: Commodore 128 tower project continued!
« Reply #53 on: April 07, 2008, 01:25:04 AM »
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Cripes, it has an OS!? Will a HD connect to a 128?


Not easy, but yes. For pure speed I will have a 16MB RamLink internal, which is essentially a 16MB hard drive and the fastest mass storage option for 8bit commies.

I will also be installing a X86 SBC (single board computer) internally as a slave to run 64HDD. That will give me a hard drive as big as I wish and acts like a hard drive. At first I will just be using a 4GB Compact Flash, but I may add a large IDE hard drive (200GB?) and CD-ROM eventually.
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Re: Commodore 128 tower project continued!
« Reply #54 on: April 07, 2008, 01:26:29 AM »
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This is a nice project...


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Now that's just cool 8-)


Thanks guys, I'm quite happy so far  :-D
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Re: Commodore 128 tower project continued!
« Reply #55 on: April 07, 2008, 02:30:31 AM »
What is the X86 SBC that you will be using?
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Re: Commodore 128 tower project continued!
« Reply #56 on: April 07, 2008, 03:28:46 AM »
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What is the X86 SBC that you will be using?
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This one :-)
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Re: Commodore 128 tower project continued!
« Reply #57 on: April 07, 2008, 11:44:31 AM »
Why can't we put them in our miggies? :crazy:

BTW, Congrats on winning the auction  ;-)

Im a bit confused as to how thats actually going to connect to your C128...


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Re: Commodore 128 tower project continued!
« Reply #58 on: April 07, 2008, 11:57:41 AM »
That should actually go into any big-box Amiga without problems, since it seems to be nothing but a standard PC mounted on an ISA-card. You could even install up to 3 more ISA/XT-cards if you'd want. Offcourse no inbuild communication with the Amiga-side .....

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Re: Commodore 128 tower project continued!
« Reply #59 on: April 07, 2008, 01:22:13 PM »
I take it you got that "Commodore" Case Badge for that tower, how about you slap a couple of these on your machine (one on each side)?

C= Sticker

Or this?

Another C= sticker