Workbench: Icons moving around

[Hodgkinson]

Hi all,
This is probably a really simple question :-D  , but when I "Clean up" a drawer, how can I get the icons to stay where they are? When I re-open the drawer, everything's moved around again. I've messed about with snapshot/update etc and I can't seem to find a way to do it.

Ideas?

Hodgkinson.

[pyrre]

snapshot all
or
select the icons and in the icon menu select snapshot

[Hodgkinson]

 :crazy: Neither seem to work. The icons have moved around afterwards, at least to a certain extent.

And another simple question or two, whats the "leave out" and "put away" buttons do and, what happens if you drag a drawer onto the workbench?

These are all probably newbie questions 'cause im learning Amigas in reverse...

[swift240]

The leave out option is for having an Icon on workbench.
So lets say you want for example Dopus 4.17 Icon on workbench then you take it to workbench and use the leave out option.
If you no longer want it on workbench then you use the putaway option, then that will put back the Icon back to its original place.

Mike.

[Hodgkinson]

Ah ha. Ta for the info. Will go and try it out :crazy:

Hodgkinson.

[MASACREWILL]

..I have similar question regarding the hard drive partitions icons.. How to snapshot them where I want them to stay?

[meega]

Hodgkinson wrote:
 :crazy: Neither seem to work. The icons have moved around afterwards, at least to a certain extent.

Are you using "Show All Files"? If so then you cannot Snapshot a "pseudo" icon, as that icon does not exist anywhere on disk. You have to make real icons for those if you want to be able to fix them in place.

[meega]

MASACREWILL wrote:
..I have similar question regarding the hard drive partitions icons.. How to snapshot them where I want them to stay?

Open the drive to give its root window. Position/size/etc said window. Snapshot Window.

If however you want to position the icons themselves on Workbench: put them where you want them to be and Snapshot them. They will possibly get moved again if anything causes a Clean Up of the Workbench screen.

[Hodgkinson]

Yep, im using show all files. And im pretty sure that most of the drawers have their own icon files. Cleanup/snapshot still doesn't seem to remember the exact icon locations. Stuff still moves around afterwards.

EDIT: Just tried it out again. It seems to be somthing to do with long drawer/file name - Drawers with long names move out of alignment after a cleanup/snapshot.

Hodgkinson.

[Nlandas]

Hodgkinson wrote:
Yep, im using show all files. And im pretty sure that most of the drawers have their own icon files. Cleanup/snapshot still doesn't seem to remember the exact icon locations. Stuff still moves around afterwards.

EDIT: Just tried it out again. It seems to be somthing to do with long drawer/file name - Drawers with long names move out of alignment after a cleanup/snapshot.

Hodgkinson.

The ones with icon files will stay where to snapshot them. The ones without icons won't. What version of AmigaOS are you using?

The only one I can't seem to remember how to keep in position is the CD/DVD icon that appears when a disk is inserted. Floppies are easy as it saves the position information back to the disk icon but CD/DVDs are read only. I seem to remember something about a default icon somewhere but that was with AsimCDFS.

-Nyle

[Hodgkinson]

See the sig ;-)

[Nlandas]

Oooops, missed the sig - I have two little guys rampaging my office right now so it's a madhouse. I can barely,,,,,,,, type anything.

If you have a bunch of drawers that you want to stay put and be viewable all the time, I'd create .info files for each of them. It's as easy as taking the drawer icon that you like and copying it to match the name of the folder.

thisisthefoldername
thisisthefoldername.info

Then use snaphot all, when you have the window/disk laid out like you like it. I believe that I used to have a utility to do this way back in the day that I either got from Fred Fish or off aminet.

Otherwise, use SIDII or DirOpus to copy and rename the drawer icons.

-Nyle

[AMC258]

Use `Show Only Icons' instead of `Show All Files' when you are diagnosing this problem.  Otherwise it's too confusing.

If you `Show Only Icons' and there is no icon for the file in question, there are three basic reasons (plus one exception, read on):

1- Missing .info file
2- Corrupt .info file
3- .info file is of the wrong type (you have a Disk type icon for a Drawer, etc.)

Solution to 1:  Create one.
Solution to 2:  Delete it and create one.
Solution to 3:  Change the icon type with IconEdit (or in later OS versions, Information)

If you are not already familiar with IconEdit, get that way.  It is your friend.

-
Now for the exception:
This is what I believe is happening to you.  You have exceeded the 30 character file name limit.  When you have a file name longer than 25 characters, Workbench cannot process it's .info file, because it is not #?.info.  This is what happens:  In this example you end up with .i instead of .info.

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         111111111122222222223
123456789012345678901234567890
ThisFilenameTooLongForAnIcon
ThisFilenameTooLongForAnIcon.i


To resolve this, you most likely need a different filesystem, or, just shorten your filenames.

[Hodgkinson]

Virtually all the drawers have icons - Most if not all created via Dopus.

I doubt that the file names are that long, but I'll go and check. Thanks for the advice.

(Heh, 30 character limit - The joys of pulling files from a PC over a network and getting covered in "File not found" errors :-) )

[meega]

It's better than 8.3...