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Amiga-like Box
« on: August 05, 2003, 10:29:18 PM »
Hello people :) These days I am really thinking of bulding a PC which will work as an Amiga Like Box. Let me share my thought with you. I am gonna built a Computer based on 815 chipset, Celeron 533MHz, 256MB SDRAM, 1GB HD and ATI Rage 128 Pro graphics Card. It is gonna be an Amiga experiment. I have Amithlon and I have downloaded Aros. What you think that is gonna be the best emulation? I have also the idea to boot in Windows and load WinUAE ar Amiga In A Box and then Amiga is Real :) Thanx in advance :)

P.S. I want a machine stable with no Windows.....or Linux...like Amiga used to be. With internet, some applications and of course if it is possible access to my ADF disks...
 

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Re: Amiga-like Box
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2003, 10:35:59 PM »
Install AROS (no need for Lunx or windows)... enjoy :)

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Re: Amiga-like Box
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2003, 10:37:19 PM »
I hope the 815 based system is something you
are putting together from spare parts.  A
440BX despite the lack of official 133fsb support
is probably the finest intel chipset ever released
until recently.  Again, if you are working with
2nd hand parts, it doesn't really matter.  I have
heard good things about Amithlon, but WinUAE
is certainly more mature.  I can't give you
any info on AROS, would like to know more
myself.  Good luck, sounds like an admirable
project.

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Re: Amiga-like Box
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2003, 10:38:29 PM »
Is there any compatibility between Aros and Amiga software? And WinUAE port to Aros? I think that Aros is under development..is it stable?

Edit : Thanx BillChase :) Yes it will be a nice project!
 

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Re: Amiga-like Box
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2003, 10:57:15 PM »
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Discolata wrote:
Is there any compatibility between Aros and Amiga software? And WinUAE port to Aros? I think that Aros is under development..is it stable?

Edit : Thanx BillChase :) Yes it will be a nice project!


AROS is fully source compatible.
AROS has a working UAE (so you can run your 68k apps)
An AROS developer has started work on an integrated 68k emualtor that will allow "transparent" emualtion of 68K apps in the AROS environment...

But AROS is designed for speed over compatibility with 68k.

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Re: Amiga-like Box
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2003, 01:20:38 AM »
"working UAE" sounds good, but no JIT and no bsdsocket I asume :)
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Re: Amiga-like Box
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2003, 05:09:03 AM »
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P.S. I want a machine stable with no Windows.....or Linux...like Amiga used to be. With internet, some applications and of course if it is possible access to my ADF disks...


Personally I'd just slap Amithlon on it then. (I've not been able to get AROS going, as much as I'd like to have a looksee - so I can't comment on it at the moment).

And if you don't want Windows, then I wouldn't bother with WinUAE either.  If you were dead certain on using UAE, I'm pretty sure there is one that runs under Amithlon -- or you can run UAE under Linux.

Sure you said you don't really want linux on there, but seeing how Amithlon (kinda sorta) boots from a linux partition anyways -- may as well put it to some kind of use.

I have 'Old Clunker' that I use around the place - I have it dual boot Linux and Amithlon and it runs pretty good.. Under the linux side of things I've pared it down to what I want, and run AmiWM with a 'Amiga Workbench' screen running UAE on startup..

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Re: Amiga-like Box
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2003, 05:38:34 AM »
@discolata

Buy a Pegasos and run MorphOS.  8)
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Re: Amiga-like Box
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2003, 06:56:53 AM »
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@discolata

Buy a Pegasos and run MorphOS.  8)


AMEN !!!!@ :-D
 

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Re: Amiga-like Box
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2003, 07:55:58 AM »
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billchase wrote:
I hope the 815 based system is something you
are putting together from spare parts.  A
440BX despite the lack of official 133fsb support
is probably the finest intel chipset ever released
until recently.
The SDRAM addressing limitations of the BX are really starting to show these days, and the ability to cheaply add more RAM will give you more 'performance' (especially under 'bloated' OSes... and under lighter OSes, you generally can't swap, anyway, so if you want to run anything large you'll *need* that memory) than any 'minor' chipset differences.
 

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Re: Amiga-like Box
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2003, 08:10:37 AM »
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AROS has a working UAE (so you can run your 68k apps)

Where do you download UAE for AROS X86-32 edition?  
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Re: Amiga-like Box
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2003, 10:44:43 AM »
Well thanx for your help. I am test Amithlon and AROS to see which is best...:)
 

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Re: Amiga-like Box
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2003, 10:58:16 AM »
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Discolata wrote:
Well thanx for your help. I am test Amithlon and AROS to see which is best...:)


Don't forget to tell us how you get on... the AROS team needs feed back in order to make it better :-)

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Re: Amiga-like Box
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2003, 09:51:42 AM »
Hello Amigans:) My Amiga-like box is complete in a hardware way...ehmmm there are many things to do ;) I changed my hardware plans due to an accident. I was trying to install the cpu cooler (Celeron 533MHz with an Vantec 3000RPM ) to the Socket 370 and for God's shake I broke MSI's plastic clip of the socket. I have installed cpus over 1000 times....bad luck....I use Asus Socket 7 mainboard with ALi chipset (yes the one with 512KB cache----very old days) with a Pentium 100MHz (lol) a Matrox graphics card (AGP), 384MB SDRAM PC100, Quantum 2.5GB HD, Philips CD ROM 6x and a Chieftek 360W PSU. I use Amithlon and not AROS (dont know why....I love Amithlon) make a 2.5G partition and install Amiga OS 3.9 on it. The system is runnins smoothly with not very good response but....I have Amiga OS 3.9 on my Samsung 17" TFT 1024x768 resolution :) :) :) I will try internet and local networking and soon I will change the hardware with a Duron / Athlon XP and a KT333 mainboard. I am very happy with my Box...I painted and old Midi Tower Black and I i will install everything in it. I am looking for software for Amithlon..Is there any compatibility list? Aminet? UAE for Amithlon exists? Thanx for your help:)
 

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Re: Amiga-like Box
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2003, 10:12:18 AM »
@ billchase

I have a 440BX chipet with 133 FSB support... running a P3-866 on it quite nicely...