what the hell is an amiga one?

[spirantho]

Piru wrote:
Obviously it's much harder to deal with these issues when you have a single product, but nevertheless you should. If you can't, you shouldn't be doing the business in the first place.

Ideally yes. And if the problem was a big one I'd be more inclined to saying the same thing...

... but the fact is the A1 does do what it advertised, and it actually does it rather well given the financial constraints on its development cycle. I'm perfectly happy with mine and seeing how hard it is to get one second hand, I suspect most other people are too.

[SamuraiCrow]

@rednova

I'll put it simply for you in terms of running AmosPro:

The AmigaOne series runs AmigaOS 4.0 but it doesn't have an Amiga multimedia chipset.  To run AmosPro on it, you'll need to run it from EUAE.  Likewise all of the software you write in AmosPro will require EUAE until we get Mattathias to a state where it can recompile Amos source code into native PowerPC code.

[Piru]

Hardware : Guru Meditation Offers AmigaOne XE Repairs

That sums it all up pretty well.

Now back to beer.

[billt]

For whatever reasons current boards like the Sam440 or Efika are not allowed to run OS4.

Amiga Inc. never granted licenses to anything from anyone since Eyetech's AmigaOne.

[A6000]

Why is it accepted that software companies can say what you can do with your hardware, is it legal?, the car manufacturers cannot tell you what fuel you can use or where and when you can drive their products so why do software companies think they have that right?, it is only through not challenging this attitude that we are faced with DRM schemes that will stop you doing things "they" don't want you to do.
It is about time software companies were held accountable for their unreasonable license terms.
Does Elbox really destroy your hardware if they detect "misuse" of their drivers?

[Fester]

rednova wrote:
Hi all:

Forgive my ignorance, but:
what the hell is an amiga one?

Thanks for asking. This thread was really interesting. Always wondered why that product had ended so abruptly. Now I have some sort of idea, bias or not...

My oh my, even Lada and Packard Bell and and... Vista got a mention along the way. I learned to drive on a Lada. It came new with a set of tools in the trunk. :-) Loved my dad's Lada. We drove it 'till the bumpers fell off. Engine never quit though...

[Hammer]

1) Macintoshes. These were no good because of difficulty getting developer info and because the designs would keep changing because Eyetech would have no say whatsoever.

OS4 with mona files enable some MacMini PPCs to run OS4...

[hooligan]

I'd suspect the cases you mentioned had proper quarantee, unlike the A1s.

[number6]

@thread

An actual definition from Apr 8, 2001:

The AmigaOne is a licenced zico specification which uses PPC explicitly for the purposes of running the AmigaOS4 family of products. Amiga has never said AmigaOS4 would run on x86 flavour or any other flavour zico devices.

Just to make it clear.

fleecy moss
cto
Amiga Inc.

#6

[downix]

spirantho wrote:
As I recall it there were three available PPC motherboards:
1) Macintoshes.  These were no good because of difficulty getting developer info and because the designs would keep changing because Eyetech would have no say whatsoever.
2) IBM PowerPC reference boards. These were very expensive or demanded large production runs.
3) The MAI board.

It was the lesser of three evils.

That's how I remember it anyway. One thing's for sure, it wasn't some great anti-Amiga user conspiracy like people are trying to make out here.

The Genesi Pegasos

[redfox]

@rednova

As you can see, the amiga community is alive and well. ;-)

Not sure if your original questions were actually answered, so here is a quick summary:

The AmigaOne is a computer platform based on the Teron series of PowerPC POP mainboards, mainly intended to run AmigaOS version 4.0 created by Hyperion Entertainment in Belgium.

The AmigaOne hardware is similar in concept to a regular pc of the same vintage, except that the AmigaOne has a PowerPC CPU and a different Northbridge chip.

AmigaOne SE had the CPU chip soldered on the motherboard, plus an AGP slot and PCI slots.
AmigaOne XE had the CPU chip on a daughterboard, plus an AGP slot and PCI slots.
MicroA1-C had the CPU chip on a daughterboard, plus onboard graphics chip and one PCI slot.

None of these boards are produced anymore.  Some other boards were planned but not released.

AmigaOS4 is an actual PowerPC operating system.  It has built-in ability to provide emulation for programs and sequences of code which were written in 68xxx code.

For the AmigaOne, this allows for compatibiliy with older programs which are "system friendly", which do not depend on the old Commodore Amiga hardware, or features present in older versions of AmigaOS.  There are many really old programs which are not compatible with AmigaOne.  The AmigaOS4 version of E-UAE creates the right environment for these programs.

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redfox

[smerf]

Hi,

The Amiga One was a pretend Amiga computer which was used with the highly touted and recommended OS4 operating system. It was
suppossed to be the new Amiga Computer. It was a computer that
I waited for to see if it could actually replace the Amiga 4000 computer that I had. It was suppossed to ship with the OS4 operating system, but since Amiga Inc. with its great leadership qualities could never get anything together properly, you could buy the Amiga One with Linux but had to wait for the OS4 operating system. Well I held off buying one until I could get an Amiga One with the OS4 all together in one package, I don't think this ever happened because I never bought the New Amiga One. If it did happen it probably only happended for one week or so. Any how I finally lost interest in the Amiga One and started buying PC's to replace my aging 4000. I now use Amiga forever on a PC and I am totaly happy with winuae. Not to happy with Windows XP or Vista, but it gets me into winuae and thats all I care about.

By the way the Amiga One was very over priced for what they gave you. Anyone who would of bought this computer for what they were asking was either very rich or a complete fanatic or a person who lost some of their marbles and not in marble madness, but then again I consider myself a completer idiot for staying with the Amiga so long and hoping that someone would possibly bring it back.


smerf

[Varthall]

smerf wrote:
Well I held off buying one until I could get an Amiga One with the OS4 all together in one package, I don't think this ever happened because I never bought the New Amiga One. If it did happen it probably only happended for one week or so.

AFAIK later AmigaOne SE/XE and all MicroA1s were sold with OS4. According to Wikipedia, the firsts were shipped until 2004, while the Micros in 2004/05. The first prerelease of OS4 has been released on 2nd June 2004.

Varthall

[redfox]

I ordered my Micro AmigaOne (MicroA1) motherboard from an online dealer at the end of November 2004.  It arrived with a CD containing OS4 update #1.  I purchased a case, power supply and combo DVD drive locally, and used a spare hard drive, keyboard, mouse and monitor from an old pc.  On December 18, 2004, I powered up my machine for the first time and installed AmigaOS 4.0 from the CD.  Within a few hours, I was browsing the internet.

AmigaOS 4.0 was a joy to behold.  Up until that time, I had been running AmigaOS 3.1 on an ancient A2000HD.

I still feel that way.  I use my machine every day.  Sure there have been a few bumps along the way, but I am very pleased with my system.

Never had to deal with Linux at all.  It was OS4 all the way.

Unfortunately, some other people have had alot of grief with their hardware and that is why I do not recommend purchasing used AmigaOne or MicroA1 boards now.

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redfox