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Re: FPGAARCADE minimig compatible board, comments?
« Reply #89 on: May 24, 2008, 04:46:46 PM »
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They make a nice simple case for the first ones I'm building/built but I'd be interested in seeing what your case looks like.

The engineer I'm building them with has some interesting ideas for other things to add to them but we don't see any reason to go to a different form factor for now as most of the changes will actually save some space!

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Re: FPGAARCADE minimig compatible board, comments?
« Reply #90 on: May 24, 2008, 04:48:38 PM »
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>>I'd need a MiniMig first.. otherwise it's a rather dull little perspex box...

I think that Amigakit and Vesalia are selling them again, £127.99 :-D
 

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Re: FPGAARCADE minimig compatible board, comments?
« Reply #91 on: May 24, 2008, 05:26:53 PM »
>>They make a nice simple case for the first ones I'm building/built but I'd be interested in seeing what your case looks like.

Did you make the ones for Wizard? I don't understand...or are you make yet another case?!

>>The engineer I'm building them with has some interesting ideas for other things to add to them but we don't see any reason to go to a different form factor for now as most of the changes will actually save some space!

Mine is just a simple case which encloses the Minimig completely with access to the ports. To cut costs I dropped the reset switch which is now a simple hole like on CD_ROMs.
I am waiting for the sales manager to come back to me about the price of an EMI coating then it should be ready to go into production.

The original would have had a price tag of about £75 but the engineer I saw last Wednesday told me that all the fancy stuff had to go to cut costs. I might get pre-orders since I will have to recover the prototype costs (hundreds of pounds) and get some cash for my next projects.
 

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Re: FPGAARCADE minimig compatible board, comments?
« Reply #92 on: May 24, 2008, 05:55:35 PM »
@TheDaddy
Hah sorry for confusing you. I meant that Wizards perspex sheets made a nice simple case for the first MiniMigs that I'm building up :-D and that I'd be interested in seeing you case design for future MiniMigs that we're planning.

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Re: FPGAARCADE minimig compatible board, comments?
« Reply #93 on: May 24, 2008, 06:52:53 PM »
>>Hah sorry for confusing you.

It's ok, I am often confused :-)

>>I meant that Wizards perspex sheets made a nice simple case for the first MiniMigs that I'm building up

How many have you got??!

>>and that I'd be interested in seeing you case design for future MiniMigs that we're planning.

Oh cool, keep me in mind for future Minimigs motherboards in need of a case, I am already sketching one for the Natami and one for the FPGAARCADE, let me know.

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Re: FPGAARCADE minimig compatible board, comments?
« Reply #94 on: May 24, 2008, 09:34:08 PM »
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FrenchShark wrote:
@mikej,

by chance, do you have a 68000 "clone" in VHDL ? (I do not consider TG68 from Tobias as a perfect clone since some 68000 bus signals are missing).
The reason is that on EAB, we were thinking about making an accelerator board for A500/A2000/A600 by using a FPGA.

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Frederic


I don't think you need to fully implement the 68000 bus signals. If you for example want to make a board for the A1200 you just need to generate the needed signals for the trap door bus. This may save some periphery logic.

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Re: FPGAARCADE minimig compatible board, comments?
« Reply #95 on: May 24, 2008, 11:22:47 PM »
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Fats wrote:
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FrenchShark wrote:
@mikej,

by chance, do you have a 68000 "clone" in VHDL ? (I do not consider TG68 from Tobias as a perfect clone since some 68000 bus signals are missing).
The reason is that on EAB, we were thinking about making an accelerator board for A500/A2000/A600 by using a FPGA.

...

Frederic


I don't think you need to fully implement the 68000 bus signals. If you for example want to make a board for the A1200 you just need to generate the needed signals for the trap door bus. This may save some periphery logic.

greets,
Staf.


Yes, you are right. I checked the A500 schematics and I have seen that at least 7 signals are not used by the A500 hardware :
FC0 - FC2, BG, BR, BGACK and BERR.
Plus, I think, with the FPGA we can get rid of VPA and HALT.

regards,

Frederic
 

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Re: FPGAARCADE minimig compatible board, comments?
« Reply #96 on: May 25, 2008, 09:18:18 AM »
@mikej

I think I have found you a name for it:

M.A.C.S

Multi Arcade (and) Computer System

Just let me know if you like it, I might use it on my next case design. :-D
 

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Re: FPGAARCADE minimig compatible board, comments?
« Reply #97 on: May 25, 2008, 10:46:31 AM »
Hi all,

"Does this new motherboard mean that it is going to be in direct competition with the Minimig and eventually kill it off?"

Not necessarily. MiniMig, like the FPGAARCADE board (whatever we call it) is just a platform to run the firmware on. The FPGAARCADE board is more flexible, and I also write the firmware for it so it will be more compatible eventually and run more systems. I am designing this board as I want a better platform to test the code I write on.

I had a chat to Dennis about this and we are both keen to keep a common codebase as much as possible. There will be some additions to the MiniMig firmware to make it work on my board, and hopefully most improvements will be picked up by the MiniMig build as well.

The FPGAARCADE board has an external 68K and the FPGA is big enough to fit an internal core. The idea is the first few boards will be fitted with the 68k and used to test the internal core. You can run both processors in lock step and see if there is any differences. They you can fix the softversion. Then you can not-fit the external 68K and use the softcore (which can be clocked faster). All the pins that the external 68K uses go to the expansion connector so they can be used as IO, or an external processor can be used. I maintain the T65 and T80 (6502/z80) cores on opencores, and this was the trick we used to bash out most of the bugs.

The AVR handles the SD card file system but all the processing is done in the FPGA. I need to do this to handle Atari disk formats as well.

Ethernet port is also going to be an option for the daughter board.

Cheers,
Mike.

 

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Re: FPGAARCADE minimig compatible board, comments?
« Reply #98 on: May 25, 2008, 10:51:07 AM »
@mikej

>>"Does this new motherboard mean that it is going to be in direct competition with the Minimig and eventually kill it off?"

I was refering to the hardware, since I have made a case for it...

So how about M.A.C.S.?

Multi Arcade (and) Computer System
or
Multi Arcade (and) Classic Systems


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Re: FPGAARCADE minimig compatible board, comments?
« Reply #99 on: May 25, 2008, 11:28:24 AM »
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TheDaddy wrote:
@mikej

>>"Does this new motherboard mean that it is going to be in direct competition with the Minimig and eventually kill it off?"

I was refering to the hardware, since I have made a case for it...

So how about M.A.C.S.?

Multi Arcade (and) Computer System
or
Multi Arcade (and) Classic Systems
 


Very nice... but you need to choose a name this isn't going to be easily confused with an existing computing platform...

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Re: FPGAARCADE minimig compatible board, comments?
« Reply #100 on: May 25, 2008, 07:52:47 PM »
>>So how about M.A.C.S.?

Multi Arcade (and) Computer System
or
Multi Arcade (and) Classic Systems
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Very nice... but you need to choose a name this isn't going to be easily confused with an existing computing platform...



I thought that was half the fun:-D
Stepping on Apple's toes  :-)

How about A.M.i.C.A = Advanced Multi Computer (and) Arcade

or

M.A.G.I.C = Multi Arcade GamIng Console/Computer

A.C.E. = Advanced Computing Emulation

 :-D
 

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Re: FPGAARCADE minimig compatible board, comments?
« Reply #101 on: May 25, 2008, 07:59:32 PM »
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TheDaddy wrote:
>>So how about M.A.C.S.?

Multi Arcade (and) Computer System
or
Multi Arcade (and) Classic Systems
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Very nice... but you need to choose a name this isn't going to be easily confused with an existing computing platform...



I thought that was half the fun:-D
Stepping on Apple's toes  :-)


I don't think you really want to step on their toes... really, you don't :-)

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How about A.M.i.C.A = Advanced Multi Computer (and) Arcade

or

M.A.G.I.C = Multi Arcade GamIng Console/Computer

A.C.E. = Advanced Computing Emulation

 :-D


R.A.C.E = Retro Amiga Computing Emulation.

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Re: FPGAARCADE minimig compatible board, comments?
« Reply #102 on: May 25, 2008, 08:47:19 PM »
>>I don't think you really want to step on their toes... really, you don't

Yeah why not...Jobs ain't that scary...

It can't be Retro Amiga Computing Emulation because it will emulate other stuff too.

Compromise:

M.E.C.A.T. = Multi Emulated Computer Arcade Technology
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Re: FPGAARCADE minimig compatible board, comments?
« Reply #103 on: May 25, 2008, 09:05:41 PM »
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TheDaddy wrote:
>>I don't think you really want to step on their toes... really, you don't

Yeah why not...Jobs ain't that scary...

It can't be Retro Amiga Computing Emulation because it will emulate other stuff too.

Compromise:

M.E.C.A.T. = Multi Emulated Computer Arcade Technology
  :-D


Retro Arcade and Computer Emulation = R.A.C.E

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Re: FPGAARCADE minimig compatible board, comments?
« Reply #104 from previous page: May 25, 2008, 09:13:18 PM »
We got a name!

 :-)

Or have we? It gives the idea of something fast...