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Re: Minimig Review completed!
« Reply #89 from previous page: March 04, 2008, 08:42:17 PM »
>>Well, I checked with AF6. At least that CD only has encrypted KS 1.3 ROM.

I can't find my AF6 cd (I think it is) but I have them all saved on an Amiga hard disk and two of them are 524,288 (one 3.0 the other 1.3).

I am going to rename the 3.0 one to KICK.ROM and see what the minimig makes of it. If it reads it fine I should get the animated floppy is this correct?

But you might be right though it looks like all the other Kickstarts I have are XXX,299 (encrypted) plus one or two 256KB.

I'll let you know what happens to the minimig when it boots with the 3.0 renamed to KICK.ROM.

Also, I forgot to ask, does the minimig need the rom.key file (3KB)?

Thanks  :-)
 

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Re: Minimig Review completed!
« Reply #90 on: March 04, 2008, 08:44:26 PM »
MiniMig does not support decrypting the image so the keyfile won't help.

AF/WinUAE uses that key to decrypt the other files. As said before, you can save the decrypted files from within emulation...
 

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Re: Minimig Review completed!
« Reply #91 on: March 04, 2008, 09:09:34 PM »
im testing all games with an original grab of the kickrom

i know wizard66 uses the originalls too

as the list stated he tried all kickstarts and they work

if a game fails in kickstart 1.3..then later on we can test them in other kickstarts
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Re: Minimig Review completed!
« Reply #92 on: March 04, 2008, 09:21:49 PM »
Just a clatification: AF kickstart roms are 100% identical to the "original" ones, after you save the decrypted version.
 

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Re: Minimig Review completed!
« Reply #93 on: March 04, 2008, 09:22:14 PM »
@ Piru and amazing

Good news!

I have got 2 working Kickstarts (3.0 and 1.3 both renamed to KICK.ROM) and they both work!

Like you said Piru, the not crypted ones should work. It doesn't look like it makes any difference by using the 1.3 over the 3.0 (apart from the animated diskette in 3.0! NICE!) because I have tested the games failing under 1.3 and they fail the same under 3.0.. Same story for the ones which have graphics corruption or missing sprites. Same results for both. So I might just as well use Kickstart 3.0 which looks better  :-)

I am afraid for compatibility issues will have to wait for an updated minimig.bin...

What do you think?

Piru thanks for the help I'll mention you in the review if it's ok with you. :-)
 

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Re: Minimig Review completed!
« Reply #94 on: March 05, 2008, 12:50:06 AM »
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Now you got to check:
1) Does using these pins "the wrong way" interfere with anything else?
2) How to handle the MCLR.

I assume the PIC18 is 3.3V or we have another issue aswell.

I suspect with a special HDL-code and the user holding down the PROG button. One can reprogram the PIC18.
Provided power glitches doesn't happen and certain bits aren't set which requires highvoltage reprogramming.


Page 140-141 of this document, http://www.xilinx.com/support/documentation/data_sheets/ds099.pdf , shows pin capabilities for XC3S400-PQ208 (used in Minimig v1.1). Pins 86, 87 and 92 are described as "Configuration pin, then possible user I/O". Good to know these pins aren't input only.

The PIC used in Minimig v1.1, PIC18LF252, runs at 3.3V. However this may be an issue:
http://web.comhem.se/illuwatarproject_pages/minimig/minimig.htm
"I didn't realise that erasing a PIC requires 5 V"

However, as you can see, Illuwatar has already achieved a form of ICSP for the PIC...
"A larger PIC to make the board funnier. This addition was not really needed, but I wanted to have the option to add an LCD. To simplify things, I just changed the PIC18LF252 to a PIC18LF452. By donig this, I could still use the original code by keeping the original pin assigment. I also added ICSP, but that ended up little bit odd in the first version. As an AVR-guy, I didn't realise that erasing a PIC requires 5 V... The solution will be a bootloader that allows programming of the firmware via the serial port."

We might be in luck, it's possible PIC reprogramming can be done with the current Minimig design:
http://home.hetnet.nl/~weeren001/minimig_building.html
"Although the PIC can be directly programmed with the necessary firmware, I strongly suggest the use of a bootloader. A bootlader makes it possible to reprogram the PIC through the serial port. To serial select jumper is designed to facilitate this. By setting the jumper to "MCU", a null-modem cable can be used to connect the Minimig to a PC. This way, new firmware can be downloaded without removing the PIC from the Minimig board. I use the Tiny PIC Bootloader by Claudiu Chiculita. This bootloader is easy to use and works reliably. Please follow the link on the links page to download the bootloader. When you use this bootloader (and you should!) program the file called "tinybld_18F252_20MHz.HEX" (inluded in the Tiny PIC Bootloader archive) into the PIC using a programmer. Then use the Tiny PIC Bootloader download tool to download the Minimig firmware into the PIC. This will make future updates much easier."

How can we check that ACube have included the Tiny PIC Bootloader Dennis recommends in their builds? Is there a way of reading PIC contents at runtime?
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Re: Minimig Review completed!
« Reply #95 on: March 07, 2008, 05:05:44 AM »
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I thought this was one of the requirements:

http://www.vesalia.de/?(and a LONG STRING)

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Could you please edit your URL to use tinyurl (http://tinyurl.com/) in your message instead?
It screws up the formating of the forum.
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Re: Minimig Review completed!
« Reply #96 on: March 07, 2008, 05:34:12 AM »
@denli

No need to use tinyurl. Just use:
{url=fullurlhere}description{/url}

and replace {} with [].
 

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Re: Minimig Review completed!
« Reply #97 on: March 07, 2008, 08:36:12 PM »
Hi,

I have updated the compatibility list, if anyone is interested;

www.loriano.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

ACube have sold all the available Minimigs so please email me your results.

Thanks  :-)
 

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Re: Minimig Review completed!
« Reply #98 on: March 07, 2008, 10:36:24 PM »
They've sold them to other shops... the shops may not have sold them. They are still listed as in stock in AmigaKit.com for example.
 

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Re: Minimig Review completed!
« Reply #99 on: March 08, 2008, 12:16:16 AM »
Vesalia sold out too... It's only AmigaKit ATM... :-D

I wonder how many MiniMigs were produced in this first line of production. Any ideas? :-?
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Re: Minimig Review completed!
« Reply #100 on: March 08, 2008, 12:32:31 AM »
hahah and nobody wanted to buy a broken a500?  :-D  :-D
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Re: Minimig Review completed!
« Reply #101 on: March 08, 2008, 12:53:33 AM »
That's what I originally said. Looks like I was proved wrong.

But if they only made 10, it's hardly amazing they sold out ;-)
 

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Re: Minimig Review completed!
« Reply #102 on: March 08, 2008, 01:00:58 AM »
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But if they only made 10, it's hardly amazing they sold out


10? What kind of manufacturer are they? :eek:
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Re: Minimig Review completed!
« Reply #103 on: March 08, 2008, 12:50:54 PM »
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No need to use tinyurl. Just use:
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and replace {} with [].

That would work to of course  :-)
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Re: Minimig Review completed!
« Reply #104 on: March 08, 2008, 07:43:16 PM »
I hope they have some more available in July.

Want one for the new house I'll hopefully have by then.