Which Amiga?

[tokyoracer]

What about Banshee? Super Stardust? Superfrog? Should I go on? (< thats a question not a game by the way :lol: ).

[McVenco]

tokyoracer wrote:

What about Banshee? Super Stardust? Superfrog?

Superfrog is OCS, not AGA.

Sure, a lot of AGA games are cool, but most games have OCS equivalents (SWIV, Stardust), plus there's far more OCS than AGA games to play with, so do you really miss out THAT much if you can't play them?

Maybe I'm a bit narrowsighted since I never had an AGA machine until 2006, but I've since played nearly every AGA game and I can't say I missed out on much in the nineties.

[reidy4040]

I dont know much about Amiga's and how they work etc. I was only small when my brother had one and everything was already set up. I do just want an Amiga to play classic games but i want there to be the widest range of games i can get without having to worry about compatability issues.

[davideo]

reidy4040 wrote:
I dont know much about Amiga's and how they work etc. I was only small when my brother had one and everything was already set up. I do just want an Amiga to play classic games but i want there to be the widest range of games i can get without having to worry about compatability issues.

Thanks to the marvelous WHDload package :bow: - compatability with most games is not a problem. More and more games are being converted on a daily basis to install and run on Amigas with hard drives.

As stated earlier, a hard drive (and possibly extra memory to play some of the larger games) is a starting point.  :-)

Although I could be considered biased - I think an AGA machine is the way to go. Possibly with extra Ram, Hard drive, CD Drive, the list continues.....:rtfm:

This would then give you more options than just gaming. You could eventually even write your own games   :crazy:

Dave G  8-)

[downix]

I would actually recommend the MiniMig, as it is new construction, not 3rd hand.  Plus it is an open platform, and upgradeable, meaning that you can get newer FPGA code in time to further enhance your system in the future.

[McVenco]

reidy4040 wrote:

I dont know much about Amiga's and how they work etc.

davideo wrote:

Thanks to the marvelous WHDload package...

downix wrote:

I would actually recommend the MiniMig...

My God. You people really don't read, don't you? The guy has little knowledge about Amigas and you come up with WHDLoad and Minimig?

Let's consider:
1) Minimig + all peripherals: around 170 euros.

2) A1200 + some RAM + monitor + registered WHDLoad: around 140 euros plus a lot of hassle getting it all installed.

3) Amiga 500 + monitor with a truckload of games, all ready to play instantly from disk: 60 euros.

Seriously, we have someone here who wants to play a game he played when he was a kid, not to learn rocket science.


@reidy4040: an A1200 is just as good as an A500, but in it's standard form you could encounter trouble when running older games. Forget about RAM-cards, accelerators or WHDLoad when you just want to play a few games. If you really wish to run dozens of different games and play a few times per week, then it might be interesting to start learning more about the Amiga, but for an occasional game an A500 is just as good in my humble opinion.

[amiga_3k]

downix wrote:
I would actually recommend the MiniMig, as it is new construction, not 3rd hand.  Plus it is an open platform, and upgradeable, meaning that you can get newer FPGA code in time to further enhance your system in the future.

You miss an important pro-point with the minimig: It can be hooked up to modern monitors without the need for expensive scandoublers.

I can see McVenco's point to, tho. But hey, the guy found Amiga.org so there's a lot of potential help available :-D.

[tokyoracer]

@ downix, I wouldn't. Expensive, hard work to make and time-comsuming. Unless hes a real wizz at the soldering iron and isn't too hard up.

[freqmax]

The real reason for Minimig is the moment when real A500 becomes scarce (Christies? :-D ).

[McVenco]

tokyoracer wrote:
@ downix, I wouldn't. Expensive, hard work to make and time-comsuming. Unless hes a real wizz at the soldering iron and isn't too hard up.

Ehmm... Minimigs are being sold as complete systems by Acube, so no soldering required...

[tokyoracer]

@McVenco, Still not cheap.

And you were right about Superfrog, my mistake. :roll:

[McVenco]

tokyoracer wrote:
@McVenco, Still not cheap.

Yeah. I mentioned that before as well :-)

[Jiffy]

I agree with McVenco completely. If you just want to play a game, buy an A500. They're cheap, can be found everywhere and don't need you to use funny tricks to get a certain game to work. Put the disk in your A500's drive and start playing.

Something like an A1200 would be nice if you plan to dive deeper in Amiga-land, but there's no reason to go that route for the occasional game.

[darksun9210]

you can't do any worse than picking up a secondhand A500 off of ebay.
if you want the full floppy loading expirence as well then this is probably your best bet.

but as ever, depends what you want....

The A500:
very very compatable, but hard disk expansions are becomming rarer, so chances are, you will be limited to floppy disks only.

The A500 Plus:
comes with a more uptodate chipset, but looses some compatability in the process - not enough to really worry about. Same expansion options, but comes with more chipram (graphics memory) so comes in handy if you do decide to put (and can find) a hard disk on it to run WHDLoad modified games from there.

The A600:
has all the features of the A500Plus, including a space for a standard laptop hard disk, in a very small case, but without the expandability.
problem, it cannot be expanded with memory beyond 2Mb, or faster CPU's without alot of effort. people buy A600's as an exersize in "how much can i expand the non-expandable" :-D but otherwise, quite a cute little machine.

The A1200:
Faster CPU, and best chipset, able to find ram cards, and processor accelerators much easier than for the A500, able to take standard laptop hard disks straight away. max amount of graphics ram, so no problems. can run a "degrader" to run games that have problems otherwise. can run WHDLoad very well. for max game compatability with an A1200, i wouldn't advise going past an 030 CPU.
old old games like Populous run their game timing directly off the CPU clock, so the faster the CPU, the faster the game!

If i was going for a bit of a knock about with a couple of games, and then put it away again, I'd go for the A500.

If i was going to have a bit of a play and leave the machine out as a bit of a hobbie retro gamer, i'd go for the A1200.

Bear in mind, a hard disk on an amiga will drasticly change the way you use the machine for the better. has to be one of the best things you can add if you are going to get into using one on a regular basis. :-)

[monami]

i don't like using floppies anymore. i bought my kit when i was going to use it for the internet now it's come in good for whdload. nice and no floppies if you download packs. this config (a1200 40 hd cd.) is perfect for me now. i won't need to be using a500 or a600... just the money factor for a newbie!
uae is the quickest and cheapest way to go. and you can always play the games you can't get running on an amiga. :-) although you need amiga forever...

ps. my linux spell checker thinks both the words linux and amiga are spelling mistakes.  :lol:

[melott]

I haven't seen any mention of the A2000 ....
It has all the advantages of the A500, plus its very
expandable with the CPU, GFX, and Zorro slots.

I'd say the A2000 is best for this guy.
It gives him many more options at a much smaller price
than either the A1200 or the A500.

Mel