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Questions about Amiga Classic VS newer Amiga systems
« on: February 25, 2008, 07:50:24 AM »
Hello folks.. I got amiga500 and a amiga600, they are called "amiga classics", because they are old, developed by Commandore..
I never touch or even seen a newer amiga, leik Amiga One in real life. Dunno really what these machine are.. Is Amiga One just a motherboard, to be used with standard PC-parts, or is it something else.

And what about OS4, can I run OS3/4 on my old dusty machines, or is these software for these new stuff.
Pictures of Amiga One looks like my yesterday gaming-computer, and not amiga-like-on the hardware.

And now about the most important, how about games, can a new amiga run old dusty games from the amiga classic-times.
I seen info about new amigas can run quake 2 and such...

My interests about amiga is to game these old sweet games that I cannot play or get the nice feel of from other systems, for example Lotus2, Pinball fantasy and such.
I have no interests to run a ported quake that run better on my retro-PC
 

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Re: Questions about Amiga Classic VS newer Amiga systems
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2008, 08:02:33 AM »
For running old games, your best off with a mildly expanded A500 or A1200 (WinUAE even).

OS4 is essentially a development of the Amiga OS, intended to run on some select PowerPC hardware (like the "AmigaOne" board or Blizzard/Cyberstorm PPC cards). OS4 is cool if you're really into the OS aspect of classic Amigas, but it won't run classic games. (Not to mention, the hardware needed to run OS4 is somewhat rare and expensive.)





 

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Re: Questions about Amiga Classic VS newer Amiga systems
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2008, 08:45:14 AM »
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mr_yeahman wrote:
Hello folks.. I got amiga500 and a amiga600, they are called "amiga classics", because they are old, developed by Commandore..
I never touch or even seen a newer amiga, leik Amiga One in real life. Dunno really what these machine are.. Is Amiga One just a motherboard, to be used with standard PC-parts, or is it something else.

It is a motherboard, which uses off-the-shelf standard PC hardware.

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And what about OS4, can I run OS3/4 on my old dusty machines, or is these software for these new stuff.

You can run OS3 on your Amigas, OS4 requires a PPC add-on or an AmigaOne.

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Pictures of Amiga One looks like my yesterday gaming-computer, and not amiga-like-on the hardware.

Making a new custom Amiga nowadays would require an insane amount of money, which cannot be justified by the tiny Amiga market. IMHO an AmigaOne is as much Amiga as possible today.

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And now about the most important, how about games, can a new amiga run old dusty games from the amiga classic-times.
I seen info about new amigas can run quake 2 and such...

It cannot run older games which hit the hardware directly, for that an emulator like EUAE is a must. OS4 runs Quake 3 too, and hopefully will run other open source 3D games too in the future.

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My interests about amiga is to game these old sweet games that I cannot play or get the nice feel of from other systems, for example Lotus2, Pinball fantasy and such.
I have no interests to run a ported quake that run better on my retro-PC

Then OS4 and AmigaOne aren't for you. These systems are more geared toward those who would like a more modern Amiga system. Personally, if I can choose where to run Quake I prefer to have AmigaOS behind it rather Windows or Linux.
AmigaOne XE - AmigaOS 4.1 - Freescale 7457 1GHz - 1GB ram
MPlayer for OS4: https://sourceforge.net/projects/mplayer-amigaos/
 

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Re: Questions about Amiga Classic VS newer Amiga systems
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2008, 11:06:22 AM »
Okay.. So I guess I stick to my old dusty amiga500 and 600. The A600 is in a poor shape, so it´s leave possible to mod the case, paint it black and such without care of the orginalshape.
I can run OS3, right... So can I just store OS3 on my 40mb harddrive in my A600HD and then I wanna game my games with are on diskettes, I just put it in teh drive and it boot the game rather than load OS3 from the HD.
 

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Re: Questions about Amiga Classic VS newer Amiga systems
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2008, 11:34:27 AM »
If you want a really cool amiga system, which is for classic games and demos, go for an a1200 with a 68030 accelerator card. (With a few MB of fastmem of course.)
This is compatible enough for games and demos, and have the speed too. Get a decent hdd too, loading games from it really faster than from floppies. And if some games isn't compatible with your new system, then you have the option to run WHDload. It hase the remedy, nearly all games and demos. And the whole thing will be not too expensive.
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Re: Questions about Amiga Classic VS newer Amiga systems
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2008, 01:25:36 PM »
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If you want a really cool amiga system, which is for classic games and demos, go for an a1200 with a 68030 accelerator card. (With a few MB of fastmem of course.)
This is compatible enough for games and demos, and have the speed too. Get a decent hdd too, loading games from it really faster than from floppies. And if some games isn't compatible with your new system, then you have the option to run WHDload. It hase the remedy, nearly all games and demos. And the whole thing will be not too expensive.


Seems nice, I will look for that machine... Teh A500 and A600 will do it good until then.