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Offline Ken86StangTopic starter

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What if??
« on: February 24, 2008, 11:08:01 PM »
What do you think the Amiga world would be like today if Amithlon had never run in to legal problems and was still under development?
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Re: What if??
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2008, 11:18:40 PM »
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What do you think the Amiga world would be like today if Amithlon had never run in to legal problems and was still under development?


We would probably have a new Amiga platform by now
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Re: What if??
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2008, 11:28:41 PM »
with some kind of pci card with AGA or better as well.
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Re: What if??
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2008, 12:02:28 AM »
Sorry if im a bit slow... but what is Amithlon, and what problems did it run into?   Could it have been Bill McCock??
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Re: What if??
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2008, 12:09:52 AM »
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Sorry if im a bit slow... but what is Amithlon, and what problems did it run into?   Could it have been Bill McCock??


Amithlon, was a 68K CPU emulator that ran on a cut down Linux kernel. This could be booted on an ordinary x86 machine and then boot into AmigaOS... It gave AmigaOS full access to the hardware an also allowed specially written native x86 programs run as well... It ran into all sorts of problems, which I'm sure Bernie doesn't really want dragged up again... I suggest you google it... :-D
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Re: What if??
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2008, 02:21:11 AM »
Can you still get Amithlon, then?

Was it ever even released?

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Sorry if im a bit slow... but what is Amithlon, and what problems did it run into?   Could it have been Bill McCock??


Amithlon, was a 68K CPU emulator that ran on a cut down Linux kernel. This could be booted on an ordinary x86 machine and then boot into AmigaOS... It gave AmigaOS full access to the hardware an also allowed specially written native x86 programs run as well... It ran into all sorts of problems, which I'm sure Bernie doesn't really want dragged up again... I suggest you google it... :-D
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Re: What if??
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2008, 05:49:44 AM »
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Can you still get Amithlon, then?

Was it ever even released?


 Yes, Amithlon was released. Circa 2001. It runs on any AMD or p3/p4 machine, with follow requirements:

 - PS/2 mouse

 - at least 128Mb RAM

 - at least 400MHz clock.

 - a video card capable of 800x600 true-colour.

 It still have third-part development, but not a way to buy it (maybe if you buy a second-hand CD and the rights to use it).
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Re: What if??
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2008, 04:24:17 PM »
Would this work if I did a fresh install of Fedora (got all 5 bloody cds of it, but never could get it to work) and then installed Amithlon over the top?  Or could I install straight from an Amithlon cd?

I also read somewhere that it only supported certain types of gfx cards.  Is that still the case?

Thanks.  :pancake:
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Re: What if??
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2008, 05:37:53 PM »


    Amithlon, was a 68K CPU emulator that ran on a cut down Linux kernel. This could be booted on an ordinary x86 machine and then boot into AmigaOS... It gave AmigaOS full access to the hardware an also allowed specially written native x86 programs run as well... It ran into all sorts of problems, which I'm sure Bernie doesn't really want dragged up again... I suggest you google it...


I was thinking that if that is all it does, then why not use AmiKit?
AmiKit does the same, it literely piggy backs of a 86x system.
Utilising the graphics and sound and HD and any CD/DVD ZIP, USB stuff.

Mike.
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Re: What if??
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2008, 05:49:23 PM »
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    Amithlon, was a 68K CPU emulator that ran on a cut down Linux kernel. This could be booted on an ordinary x86 machine and then boot into AmigaOS... It gave AmigaOS full access to the hardware an also allowed specially written native x86 programs run as well... It ran into all sorts of problems, which I'm sure Bernie doesn't really want dragged up again... I suggest you google it...


I was thinking that if that is all it does, then why not use AmiKit?
AmiKit does the same, it literely piggy backs of a 86x system.
Utilising the graphics and sound and HD and any CD/DVD ZIP, USB stuff.

Mike.


I quite agree, in fact winuae would probably offer you much more now. But Amithlon was rather low level, offering little more than 68k emulation in theory offering a speed advantage over UAE with it's full chipset emultion. When it was released it offered a real computing platfrom for future Aos development... Not too dissimilar to Apple's hardware archicture migration... Now UAE is probably better choice for all users
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Re: What if??
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2008, 07:01:51 PM »
Amithlon would have been quite useful as a device driver development platform, as it was considerably faster than a real 680x0 and supported OpenPCI, among other things. Oh well....
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Re: What if??
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2008, 07:15:59 PM »
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Amithlon would have been quite useful as a device driver development platform, as it was considerably faster than a real 680x0 and supported OpenPCI, among other things. Oh well....


It would have allowed a steady migration to x86...
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Re: What if??
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2008, 07:30:51 PM »
Does anyone know who produced it?  I know that Bernie worked on it.  I believe haage-partner sold it.
What was closed about it?

I heard that a color wheel was a problem with the IP.
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Re: What if??
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2008, 07:35:33 PM »
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Does anyone know who produced it?  I know that Bernie worked on it.  I believe haage-partner sold it.
What was closed about it?

I heard that a color wheel was a problem with the IP.


H&P screwed over Bernie.. enough said.

The Colour Wheel was from OS 3.9 was from AROS... no IP issue.
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Re: What if??
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2008, 07:52:06 PM »
you forgot to say it also cost a fortune. back when it was seen as good for the community to pay silly amounts for such things. imho.
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