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Amiga 4000
« on: February 22, 2008, 10:53:44 PM »
Im new to this things i know noting about amiga hardware but im a toaster 4000 user.

How can i upgrade my amiga 4000
i have 16 ram, floppy 31/2
ide disk

i want to:

More RAM
another disk
cd or dvd (how to install and compatibility)
pc keybord, mouse and monitor.
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Re: Amiga 4000
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2008, 11:18:18 PM »
Not much to choose from at the moment:

Mediator - use PCI graphics, sound and ethernet cards
Lyra - PS/2 keyboard adaptor
Coccolino - PS/2 mouse adaptor
Fast ATA-MKIII - 4 device IDE card

Hopefully the Deneb USB card will be available soon, and will allow SATA HD, keyboard, mouse, ethernet etc.
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Re: Amiga 4000
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2008, 11:21:01 PM »
Any short PATA IDE CD/DVD will work.
Any PATA IDE hard drive will work.

Just plug the two into a single cable via the PATA IDE header on the Amiga motherboard.

You could even install your Amiga's new IDE hard drive using your PC and WinUAE before transferring it over to your Amiga. An easy way to install OS3.9 + BB2 + patches.

More RAM
1) Fastlane SCSI controller (64Mbytes) = £50-60
2) DKB 3128 Zorro III RAM card (128Mbytes) = £100-120
3) 680x0 accelerator (WarpEngine, Cyberstorm, Apollo) = £150-400

PC Keyboard and Mouse
COCOLINO PS/2 mouse adapter = £26
Lyra PS/2 keyboard adapter = £20

PC monitor
1) Scandoubler = £50-90
2) Picasso IV gfx card = £150
3) 15" LCDTV = £100
 

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Re: Amiga 4000
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2008, 11:22:40 PM »
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Fast ATA-MKIII - 4 device IDE card

That is A1200 only. Plus you dont need anything, the Amiga can use two IDE devices (Hard drive + DVD-RW) using just the internal IDE.

Why have two IDE disks when you can have one? An old PC hard drive of yesteryear (40Gig say) will be more than enough. You can use a PC to copy the files from the old drive to a new one using WinUAE.
 

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Re: Amiga 4000
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2008, 11:26:00 PM »
were can i find those things, i have workbench 3.0 whith videotoaster 4000 card, any support in san diego?
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Re: Amiga 4000
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2008, 11:27:26 PM »
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were can i find those things

They dont sell RAM upgrades anymore you'll need to search on http://www.ebay.com

For the mouse/keyboard adapter you can get them from http://www.amigakit.com

A US company which sells Amiga stuff is: http://www.softhut.com

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i have workbench 3.0

It might also be advisable to get a KS3.1 ROM upgrade.
 

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Re: Amiga 4000
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2008, 11:30:27 PM »
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Fast ATA-MKIII - 4 device IDE card

That is A1200 only.


Wrong. Completely and utterly wrong:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=381&osCsid=e9a3c9345b039dd4f962d67c29984a25

You must be confusing the PowerFlyer and FastATA.
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Re: Amiga 4000
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2008, 11:33:21 PM »
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Wrong. Completely and utterly wrong:

No I am not. Amiga kit has mislabeled it.

http://www.elbox.com/products.html

FastATA MK-III is the A1200 one.
FastATA 4000 is the Zorro III one.
 

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Re: Amiga 4000
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2008, 11:33:51 PM »
Whath is a KS3.1 ROM?
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Re: Amiga 4000
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2008, 11:35:01 PM »
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Whath is a KS3.1 ROM?

Kickstart 3.1 ROM. It's the boot chip inside the Amiga. The last version was 3.1, you may have an earlier 3.0 one
 

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Re: Amiga 4000
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2008, 11:35:43 PM »
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No I am not. Amiga kit has mislabeled it.


No they haven't, it's called a FastATA Mk-III on the Elbox site too. Or have they got the name wrong as well?
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Re: Amiga 4000
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2008, 12:24:58 AM »
If you go mediator pci - you won't be able to use it with toaster.  none of the mediators work with VT.
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Re: Amiga 4000
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2008, 12:41:25 AM »
OK if i connect a cd-rom or dvd rw to my amiga 4000, do i have to install, or directly detect my drive, i have the ks 3.0
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Re: Amiga 4000
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2008, 01:03:08 AM »
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OK if i connect a cd-rom or dvd rw to my amiga 4000, do i have to install, or directly detect my drive, i have the ks 3.0


You will need a CD filesystem (AmiCDFS or CachCDFS), which should include a suitable mountlist.
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Re: Amiga 4000
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2008, 02:02:25 AM »
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bodoquedoc wrote:
Im new to this things i know noting about amiga hardware but im a toaster 4000 user.

How can i upgrade my amiga 4000
i have 16 ram, floppy 31/2
ide disk

i want to:

More RAM
another disk
cd or dvd (how to install and compatibility)
pc keybord, mouse and monitor.


How many zorro slots do you have open? You could add a Budha IDE controller to speed up disk access. If you have the 3.11 ROMs and take some time to check out these forums you can simply add a large hard drive instead of two. You'll want to look at IDE97 and SFS to support larger hard drives. With the Budha you will have an extra IDE header to connect a CD or DVD ROM whihc are supported by IDEFIX97.

Then for more ram, I'd recommend finding an accelerator that takes fast ram to replace your existing.

As for keyboard and mouse, I agree that USB would be the way to go and give you the ability to use USB flash drives, hard drives, etc.

As for monitor - you really need to keep buying old 15Khz models unless you can find a good scan doubler that's compatible with the Toaster. This will be your hardest selection. (Also expensive.)

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