Thats it! It is time to get a Wii ----- C=64 games Come to Wii !!!!

[Turambar]

I fail to be excited at the prospect of paying £3.50 for games that cost less when they were originally released.

[alexh]

AJCopland wrote:
the Wii is at least as powerful as the XBOX - minus the programmable shaders but with a much more powerful fixed function pipeline. Gives it a teeny bit of an edge in terms of throughput compared to the XBOX plus the cpus a lil' quicker.

All not true. The main 730MHz PowerPC CPU is (according the games coders) less powerful than the 733MHz Celeron in the XBOX1 (at least at the API level) and the GPU has lower throughput. Add the lack of HD support (XBOX-1 will happily do 720p and at a push 1080i) and the Wii is not a true 7th gen console.

[skurk]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

skurk wrote:
Why, I HAVE a C64 DTV.  And a real C64, and a C128.  And more to come.

Why not stick to the real C64, for the real look and feel? :-)

That's what I do (plus a x1541 cable that is)

Oh, I do that occasionally, too.  C64+MMC64 does the trick most of the time.

That said, I find it easier to ask the missus to join me in a game on the Wii in the living room, instead of dragging her into the cold, dark hobby room where the rest of my stuff is located.

I love the fact that it's on a console.  You can't just alt-tab and check your mail, you're "locked" there for a while - keeps you focused on the game.  I don't know how many times I've finished Super Mario Bros (NES) on the Wii lately - maybe 9 or 10 times the past month.  Far more than I would in any emulator on a PC anyway.

[Hattig]

Turambar wrote:
I fail to be excited at the prospect of paying £3.50 for games that cost less when they were originally released.

Well, with inflation factored in ... £2 - Uridium was £7.95 on cassette, or about £14 nowadays.

Turrican will do it for me. Speedball 2 as well, although I'd rather the Amiga version (and yes, I know it is out on the XBox360 alongside Sensi Soccer).

Still, might get Uridium, although I've only ever played the CPC version.

Wouldn't mind a 5-pack of Codemasters games though, c'mon Nintendo, collate those budget games into a single download. Give me Puff and Dizzy and Seymour and a couple of codies sim games for £3.50

[Hattig]

Oh, and does anyone else think that ScummVM should be ported to the Wii so that we can point at the screen with our WiiMotes and play Monkey Island and Loom again?

[tokyoracer]

@ skurk, Yes but you don't know that untill you try it. it could be crap.

If you have a Wii then fair enough but the games are at a cost. Really, why? I'm sticking with the 360, PC and PSP for all my emulating. Soon, no doubt PS3 will be emulating soon.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

skurk wrote:
That said, I find it easier to ask the missus to join me in a game on the Wii in the living room, instead of dragging her into the cold, dark hobby room where the rest of my stuff is located.

I guess the missus has something to do with the Commodore 64 being banned to the cold and dark hobby room... :lol:
MY C=64 has a warm spot in the centre of my living room  :love:

[adolescent]

skurk wrote:

That said, I find it easier to ask the missus to join me in a game on the Wii in the living room, instead of dragging her into the cold, dark hobby room where the rest of my stuff is located.

Lucky you.  I have trouble getting the wife to play with my Wii no matter the location.  :-P

[Krusher]

Although I practically grew up with a C64 in my lap (uh actually the VIC20) I'm not interested into it any more.
The breadbox did open my eyes on computing though and eventually I had my nickname from it (memory is lacking, could have been the A500 though) through swap parties *hides*

Fond memories though, playing Impossible Mission on it, my dad laying out it's map and won a price on doing that (uhm, a red cartidge?)

Oh and that sample in that game is a classic!

[AMC258]

Why not stick to the real C64, for the real look and feel?That's what I do (plus a x1541 cable that is)

Absolutely.  I occasionally play a C64 game or two on my A3000, but, it just isn't the same.  I don't mind having to rub the RUN/STOP key in a circle whilst pressing it REALLY hard and slamming the RESTORE key with a full swing.  Heck, I've done it for two thirds of my life. :lol:
Honetsly though, I always FIX my C64s when they start doing those sorts of things.

Frodo is great.  But, it's still no C64.  And, I still can't get Beyond Castle Wolfenstein to work on it.  (Although, that's the main reason I keep an Apple ][e around).

[stefcep2]

Not sure what, exactly, makes a console "next-gen".  I guess your view is that increased cpu horsepower and graphics resolution and graphics effects are what matters.  Nintendo doesn't believe this: they believe what matters is delivering an innovative and improved game-playing experience.  In that regard the ONLY next-gen console is the Wii: all I see on XBOX360 and PS3 are the same ideas and gameplay mechanics (with some subtle changes) that were available on PS1 and N64, but with more polygons, and higher resolutions .  In fact some games play better on the older consoles, for example Fifa08 and ProEvo (winning eleven)are more playable and have more features on PS2 than on XBOX360 or PS3.  In any case, the 480p graphics of the Wii on my 42" plasma look pretty good to me. In Australia Wii is perpetually sold out, PS3 and XBOX360 are available everywhere. nuff said.

[Krusher]

RUN/STOP RESTORE

At least it was a stretched 2 finger salute to me  :lol: (yes I have long fingers)

Why it was an hammering movement I still don't understand, did they put touch sensitive keys in there or something?  :lol:

BTW Never had a console except for the Atari 2600, after that it just doesn't make sense.

[stefcep2]

alexh wrote:

All not true. The main 730MHz PowerPC CPU is (according the games coders) less powerful than the 733MHz Celeron in the XBOX1 (at least at the API level) and the GPU has lower throughput. Add the lack of HD support (XBOX-1 will happily do 720p and at a push 1080i) and the Wii is not a true 7th gen console.

Not sure what, exactly, makes a console "next-gen".  I guess your view is that increased cpu horsepower and graphics resolution and graphics effects are what matters.  Nintendo doesn't believe this: they believe what matters is delivering an innovative and improved game-playing experience.  In that regard the ONLY next-gen console is the Wii: all I see on XBOX360 and PS3 are the same ideas and gameplay mechanics (with some subtle changes) that were available on PS1 and N64, but with more polygons, and higher resolutions .  In fact some games play better on the older consoles, for example Fifa08 and ProEvo (winning eleven)are more playable and have more features on PS2 than on XBOX360 or PS3.  In any case, the 480p graphics of the Wii on my 42" plasma look pretty good to me. In Australia Wii is perpetually sold out, PS3 and XBOX360 are available everywhere. nuff said.

[AMC258]

Geez!  I have long fingers.  I can put my thumb on C and hit E on the next octave with my pinky with no trouble.  But, I can't imagine doing the RUN/STOP-RESTORE thing one handed.  Although, maybe I'm remembering wrong, it's been a while.

The RESTORE hammering was a well known charactaristic of the C64.  I always wondered if it was a real mechanical problem, or some sort of timing issue.  Because, some times you can hit it real soft and it works just fine, other times you really have to smack it.

A guy I know keeps his C64 in the same computer desk as his main computer, an A3000 (We installed a second keyboard slide for the C64).  He's had the same C64 since he was a kid.  EVERY key on that thing requires ALL your weight on it, and you have to wiggle your thumb in a circle to get the key to work.  Then, you end up getting two characters and have to do the same with the INSerT/DEL key (you know, the one everyone always calls Instant Delete :lol: )
He doesn't think it's unusual to have to work that hard to type something in.  I remember seeing him type in huge BASIC programs in high school, he looked like he was having a siezure.

[AMC258]

Not sure what, exactly, makes a console "next-gen".

It has to be something drastically different than any previous game system.  I'd definately say the Vee qualifies, the others simply do not.

they believe what matters is delivering an innovative and improved game-playing experience.

This is what I admire about Nintendo.  I don't particularly like the Vee, but I do like what they did.  I don't like all the cookie cutter games on the other systems.  I still like the Intellivision, which at it's time, was kind of like the Vee.  The games just had a different quality than those of any of the other systems.  The 3DO was the same way.  All the good 3DO games had actors and live video, not unlike a movie, mostly non-computer-generated.  Something I really think was a good idea.  No one else really did that.

Nintendo is building games based on game play.
Everyone else is building games based on the hardware.

[foleyjo]

Right so let me get this right

1- People with real C64's want to get a Wii so they can pay to emulate the C64 on it.

2- People want to get the Wii to pay to download C64 games when other systems (PC,PS3,Amiga,Xbox(not the 360),Dreamcast,GP2x,Various Mobile Phones) have free emulators available and the games are free.

3- People want to pay over £100 to get the wii to pay to download C64 games when they could spend up to £50  and get a MMCReplay or some kind of cable download C64 games for free and transfer them to a real C64 (which you can get for as little as £5)

People want to be ripped off :lol: