a3000 vga port

[alexh]

elpiloto wrote:
As i sayed, i moved the jumper to NTSC mode

I am not sure that is enough, I think you must also change to NTSC in screen prefs?

but.......my a3000 when starts apear a kickstart menu, that says kisckstart 2.x hard disk or floppy and kickstart 1.3 hard drive and floppy, so i thin must be there some version of kickstart 1.3 for the a3000 ......

You DEFINITELY have kickstart 1.4 ROM chips inside your A3000.

This ROM allows you to load KS1.3 or KS2+ (including KS3.1) from hard drive or floppy drive.

There are official SuperKickstart (floppy) disks for KS1.3, KS2.04 and unofficial ones for KS3.1.

Do you have a hard drive? If you do then can forget about using floppy disks.

1)Rename your hard drive partition DEVICE NAME to WB_2.x (This must be done at the lowest level, not just change Icon name)

2)Copy the Superkickstart ROM image to your hard drive in the location DEVS:/kickstart

Where do I get a SuperKickstart 3.1 ROM image?

See your PM ;-)

For more information about making SuperKickstart floppy disks, and all thinks related to KS1.4 take a look here

http://aminet.net/package/util/misc/MakeSuperDisk

[Jope]

rkauer wrote:
Anyway, using ROM 1.3 (35.xxx) don't gives access to the HD, so it is used for gaming purposes in floppy-based games and apps.

Oh, but it does give you HD access. There's a 1.3 compatible scsi.device on the superkickstart disk, that gets appended to the 1.3 image to make a superkickstart file in WB1.3:devs/kickstart.

When the A3000 was first released, it usually came with KS/WB 2.01 or 2.03.. Commodore told everyone that 2.x wasn't fit for production use and basically instructed people to use 1.3 for production work.

That's why it had superkickstart functionality.. If it really had been what they wanted, the A4000 would have shipped with it too, I guess. :-)

[AMC258]

This belongs in a new thread.  But, here it is.

Early A3000's shipped with Kickstart ROM v1.4.  Yes, it is a Kickstart.  It DOES have an incomplete v1.4 of the OS on it, I have personally witnessed it on my A3000UX.  You CAN get a CLI going in 1.4, but I don't remember the trick to it.  It's worth seeing, the graphics are screwey.  Most of the vector graphics (gadgets and things) do not exist, and you can clearly see the transition from 1.3 to 2.0 as a work in progress.
One thing the ROM does different than other Kickstart ROMs though is allow you to select a Kickstart image to use instead of the 1.4 Kickstart.  You are never supposed to see the 1.4 Kickstart.

The standard installation was this:
Three hard drive partitions.  One with the OS1.3 system, including the 1.3 SuperKickstart.  One with the OS2.0 system, including the 2.0 SuperKickstart.  One called WORK: (YES!  This is where it all started with this name!) where you put everything non-OS specific.

The OS1.3 that comes with the A3000 works with hard drives, just like OS1.3 for A1000/500/2000.  I could be remembering wrong, but the way I remember is that OS1.2 worked with hard drives also, it would NOT boot directly from a hard drive though.  1.3 introduced 'Autobooting'.
 
One of these days I'm going to dig up my 1.4 ROM, and see if I can run OS4 with it installed.

BTW, C= NEVER made a SuperKickstart for OS3.1!

[Zac67]

Just press both mouse buttons on startup to get the boot selection screen. There you hit the invisible close button on the top left corner and you've got 1.4. For what it's worth... ;-)

[alexh]

AMC258 wrote:
BTW, C= NEVER made a SuperKickstart for OS3.1!

BTW, C= NEVER made any KS3.1, Super or regular!

They went bankrupt before launch and it was VillageTronic who eventually released it :-P

Anyhow (as I said early) there _IS_ an unofficial  SuperKickstart3.1 (An A3000 KS3.1 ROM with Bonus Code)

[Jope]

alexh wrote:
Anyhow (as I said early) there _IS_ an unofficial  SuperKickstart3.1 (An A3000 KS3.1 ROM with Bonus Code)

And as we determined elsewhere, the bonus code hasn't actually changed since 2.04.. It seems to work fine for all kickstarts that came after that. I'm talking about $VER: bonus20 37.14 (5.5.91)

Now you can easily make your own 3.1 superkickstart disk from a 2.04 superkickdisk + 3.1 A3000 ROM.. Just a case of writing the 3000 ROM's contents over the 2.04 ROM image on the superkickdisk with your favourite monitor or disk editor.

I once made a 3.9 superkickstart file, and that also works.

Make a backup copy of your 2.04 superkick disk and work on that, please.

Oh and if you already have a 2.04 superkick file, you can just take the bonus out of that and tack it on to an A3000 3.1 image you read from the original A3000 3.1 ROM chips you have in your possession. ;-)

[AMC258]

Okay, call me schtuupit, but, what the heck is the 'bonus code'?

And, where the heck can I get my hands on this unofficial SuperKickstart 3.1 ??  Or should I just try and find one of the MANY SuperKickstarts I have and modify it?
I have every version of 2.x that was ever released on SuperKickstart!

[Jope]

The normal kickstart is exactly 512kB no more, no less.

The A3000 kickstart is 512kB + bonus code. Look at the end of your superkickstart file in devs:kickstart, there you will find the bonus. It is very clear where it starts and where the kickstart ends.

Like I said before, just get your hands on a 512kB A3000 3.1 and you can make a superkickstart 3.1 by tacking the bonus into the end of it..

Just out of curiosity, what 2.0x superkickstarts do you have?

At least 36.143 and 36.202 I guess, but more?

[AMC258]

The A3000 kickstart is 512kB + bonus code.

Great.  But, what is the bonus code?

Look at the end of your superkickstart file in devs:kickstart

I don't have a DEVS:Kickstart anymore, now I have a SYS:Kickstart (OS4).  I don't know where my 1.4 ROMs are.

Just out of curiosity, what 2.0x superkickstarts do you have?

I'll have to let you know when I dig them up next time.

At least 36.143 and 36.202 I guess, but more?

IIRC, there were between 5 and 7 of them.  I got the idea that the original owner of my A3000UX was involved in some sort of upgrade program from C=.  Interestingly, the first set of SuperKickstart disks consists of a single SuperKickstart disk (1.3) and a piece of paper promising that future SuperKickstarts would include the all new Release 2 which wasn't quite available yet.

[Zac67]

The bonus code contains the scsi.device driver and onboard fast RAM setup. Without it, you lose these features.

[alexh]

Zac67 wrote:
The bonus code contains the scsi.device driver and onboard fast RAM setup. Without it, you lose these features.

Hmm, maybe for 1.3. KS2+ contains all that.

[AMC258]

Right.  I don't know about the fastmem, but I have managed to extract the scsi.device from the 3.1 Kickstart (512k).

[taunusand]

Tell me if this is a stupid question.. But how can you extract scsi.device (or any) from kickstart?  :-?