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Re: AmiGeek banned, yet again?
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 14, 2008, 09:35:14 AM »

Then I sure hope that nobody has fed them after midnight :nervous:
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Re: AmiGeek banned, yet again?
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2008, 10:19:24 AM »
It is possible the guy has some sort of mental illness?

I have a cousin with bipolar disorder, when he's stable he's tries to make up for the crazy/weird things he said when manic, only to say it all again next time.  When people go hard on him for that, he gets depressed.  It's a roller coaster ride!  I sympathize with anyone affected by a mental illness.

Sometimes it's hard to take, but you just have to understand they cant help it and in most cases would give anything to be free of it.

...Or he could just be a jerk?
 

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Re: AmiGeek banned, yet again?
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2008, 10:39:04 AM »
Bipolar disorder doesn't make you rip people off. It might lead you to become aggressive if confronted about unacceptable behaviour, but it certainly doesn't make you a crook.

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Re: AmiGeek banned, yet again?
« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2008, 10:42:28 AM »
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Bipolar disorder doesn't make you rip people off. It might lead you to become aggressive if confronted about unacceptable behaviour, but it certainly doesn't make you a crook.

That's absolutely correct. I know that better than anyone.  :angry:
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Re: AmiGeek banned, yet again?
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2008, 10:53:46 AM »
Bipolar was just an example.
 

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Re: AmiGeek banned, yet again?
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2008, 10:59:24 AM »
Schizophrenia perhaps.
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Re: AmiGeek banned, yet again?
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2008, 11:53:42 AM »
I was going to stay out of all this, however, the very thought of anyone believing this arse suffers from a mental illness is laughable. He's a con man, plain and simple, a rude one at that. I believe everybody deserves a second chance, but history will show this ain't his second chance, that was several chances ago.
 

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Re: AmiGeek banned, yet again?
« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2008, 12:44:31 PM »
Is there any truth in the rumour about him banned for being an Atari fan?
Or is that just wishful thinking on my part? :lol:
 

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Re: AmiGeek banned, yet again?
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2008, 01:18:14 PM »
I'm not one for labels, or excusing a persons behavior with them, but couldn't "Con-man" behaviour be characterized by a mental disorder/disease?

eg:

Antisocial personality disorder (APD) is a mental disorder defined by the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual: "The essential feature for the diagnosis is a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that begins in childhood or early adolescence and continues into adulthood."[1] Considered essential features of the disorder are deceit and manipulation. source:Wiki.

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Re: AmiGeek banned, yet again?
« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2008, 01:49:42 PM »
Again, I have to quote the scripture (posting guidelines):

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Whoever of the mods decided to delete his account doesn't need to answer to any of us. And we are all in breach of the guidelines for posting in this thread.

That being said, I think that if he had a lifetime ban on him. And that was the reason for why he was deleted, it was very unfortunate that he was allowed in for as many days as he was. Both to him, and to the community as it gives unclear message to both parties, and many here considered him "fritt vilt" - Fair Game.

Whatever other reason (multiple acount, fraudulent behaviour, foul mouth) is a concern between mods and Mr George Campbell.

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I am no lawyer, but speculating and insinuating about a persons mental health can be construed as of a libellous nature.

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Re: AmiGeek banned, yet again?
« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2008, 01:54:52 PM »
Specualtion is not libel.

A persons opinion can not be libel.

Someone whould have to say so and so defo has mental issues.

Saying I believe or I think, is not libel.  Well Im pretty sure its not in the UK.  Its called freedom of speech
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Re: AmiGeek banned, yet again?
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2008, 02:37:50 PM »
I'm sure the laws are stricter in Norway and the UK.

But american court rooms are imfamous, and american lawyers in particular. It's all fed by urban legends, poodle in the microwave, slippery sidewalks and hot starbuck coffees. Granted these are not issues concerning free speech. But still, any legaleese is expensive. Even when you're in the right.
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Re: AmiGeek banned, yet again?
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2008, 02:44:03 PM »
In regards to a user's posts being deleted when his/her account is deleted:

But....I just read a lot of Doom-Master's old posts from 2003-2004 a few weeks ago - eg. the classic thread one about the A2000 chips being military spec.

How is it that was possible if (unless his old account was not deleted)?
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Re: AmiGeek banned, yet again?
« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2008, 02:49:19 PM »
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Schizophrenia perhaps.


More like Obsessive Compulsive Disorder with the way his language is phrased so ritualistically (i.e. Flagship Amiga 2000 Professional Computer), the way he describes his behaviour when handling Amigas (washes his hands before touching his Amigas), and desire to hoard more backup parts of specific types than could possibly be used in a lifetime (although we all have a little bit of that I guess).
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Re: AmiGeek banned, yet again?
« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2008, 03:57:32 PM »
Im pretty sure in the UK that a case against someone from the UK  dipsuting someones mental health on an open forum whould never get to court.

It would have to be a civil action and the person pushing this is going to need a lot of money too.
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Re: AmiGeek banned, yet again?
« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2008, 04:06:49 PM »
This was a conflict that I didn't particularly relish.  Since his re-emergence, it did, in fact, seem as though he was trying to get along and play nice.

There are several factors at play here.  The numerous complaints I was receiving, the fact that he had opened up multiple accounts, the reports of e-bay fraud, the threats to "come to Huntsville and kick my ass" (from a few years ago).

If he had come to me and said "I really want to come back and I'll play nice", I would have been ok with giving him another chance.  Instead, he opened a duplicate account and began posting.

Like I said, conflicted.  I just kept getting complaint after complaint about his re-emergence until I made the decision to remove him based on those instances.

I think it's strangely hypocritical that the same people questioning me for banning him are amongst the same people blasting him for ripping them off on eBay.

If he wants to contact me about coming back and he's willing to reform his ways, then I'm ok with that.  I would not allow him to post eBay ads for obvious reasons, but I'll give pretty much anyone enough rope to hang themselves at least once.

Redrumloa is correct.  Delete the user account, all posts and child posts are deleted.  I'm not interested in having hundreds of orphaned posts caused by renaming accounts.  

There is no censorship involved, and frankly as one of my strongest of pet peeves, anyone who suggests differently might find themselves on the same short list as doomy.  

Sorry, I've just been doing this too many years for people to toss around such verbage without taking sincere insult.  The fact that you have no clue what decisions are necessary to operate a web site does not make it censorship.

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