What would you like to see in a new Amiga?

[ChuckT]

What would you like to see in a new Amiga?

It is up to the new Amiga to put out a new computer that reads old Amiga drives, is bundled with at least C, Assembler and come with an updated language of Basic which would bring it into the next decade.  I think the computer's architecture has to be easy for the hobbyist to use which would include Movable Object Blocks / Sprites, and come with an autosensing wireless router built in.  I think it should support USB 3.0 or Firewire and come with a mini programmer's reference guide that the C-64 came with.  I think they should have expansion that could be wired for controlling robotics or at least there should be directions for wiring the USB for robotics.

I suggest that we send a petition to the new Amiga after we agree on what it should have.

[Jeff]

Availability:-D!

-Jeff

[Oli_hd]

What would you like to see in a new Amiga?

Zorro slots and the OS in a fast onboard rom of some sort :-)
.......edit.......
oh and something that runs at 25Mhz yet runs programs faster than any PC on the market, that would really piss the Windows fan boys off.

[AMC258]

All it needs is Zorro III, a video slot, a G4, more RAM, SCSI, and a OS4 ROM.

[AndyFC]

Current, industry standard connectivity i.e.
PCI
PCI Express (has version 2 just come out?)
USB
Firewire
SATA
IDE

and driver support (whether third party or OEM) for as much as the stuff as you can plug in to them as possible.

Also, support for Amiga as an open platform i.e. anyone can manufacture something which runs Amiga OS.

[ddniUK]

A big sticker proclaiming that no proceeds from this device went to Bill McScrewem  :lol:

[dammy]

Probably a good time to except reality that there won't be another "Amiga" as we know it.  Instead of wishing for something that will never be, it's time to work for something that we all should feel comfortable with on existing hardware.  Apple excepted this years ago, and they have sales.  Why Amiga folks can't, is beyond me.

Dammy

[AmiSake]

dammy wrote:
Probably a good time to except reality that there won't be another "Amiga" as we know it.  Instead of wishing for something that will never be, it's time to work for something that we all should feel comfortable with on existing hardware.  Apple excepted this years ago, and they have sales.  Why Amiga folks can't, is beyond me.

Dammy

Indeed. An affordable "new Amiga" will have to be built
with readily available and cheap hardware.
I think what made the Amiga the Amiga, was the combination of
the OS and the then great hardware.
Just because the current hardware makers manage to screw up the design of the PC motherboards, doesn't mean someone cannot use the current hardware to build a good motherboard to run OS4 or any other OS that gives you the look and feel of the AmigaOS (and no I do not mean emulation, that's not the same thing in my humble opinion)

[dammy]

I think what made the Amiga the Amiga, was the combination of
the OS and the then great hardware.

Correct, Amiga was indeed great hardware, could have been even better hardware if C= management didn't screw everything up.  Had the tech been available, IIRC, the entire chipset would have been on a single chip.  Tech wasn't, and they had to do multiple chips to take the load off the 7MHz 68000 to make the machine as fast as possible with the capabilities they wanted.

Fast forward 20+ years and we have cheap hardware that can do what is needed for any desktop OS that hasn't been M$'d to death.  Even better, each couple of years and we get another major jump in tech after the big boys spend billions of dollars of R&D plus T&E.

Old motto comes to mind when talking about hardware, "Work smarter, not harder."

Dammy

[TDScompute]

Amiga should really be an OS that runs on industry standard hardware.

Ship with drivers for common video cards, audio, etc... and allow for new drivers to be written for new hardware very easily.

We have all the hardware performance we could ask for in a couple hundred dollar PC, and I think a fair number of people would spend $50 or so on a second OS for their PC.

Amiga OS 4.1 should run on the Intel/AMD platform!

[Ral-Clan]

ChuckT wrote:

It is up to the new Amiga to put out a new computer...I suggest that we send a petition to the new Amiga after we agree on what it should have.

I admire your sentiments, but seriously, you are either really naive or you are posting from the year 1997 when Petro was still heading up Amiga, Inc.

Amiga, Inc. of 2008 will NEVER do anything for us again.  It's up to the community produce new hardware.

[HopperJF]

dammy wrote:
Probably a good time to except reality that there won't be another "Amiga" as we know it.  Instead of wishing for something that will never be, it's time to work for something that we all should feel comfortable with on existing hardware.  Apple excepted this years ago, and they have sales.  Why Amiga folks can't, is beyond me.

Dammy

Yes but Apple still release machines, iMac, Mac Pro, etc.
Amiga don't so this thread is to find out if Amiga release "their" answer to the Macs and PC's of this world, what would be inside.

Good thread :-)

[HopperJF]

I'd like to see the next operating system run on x86 and PC's but also for their to be new Amiga machines.
These will be tuned to the OS like Apple and so will usually perform better and have their own distinctive look. UNLIKE Apple though they will be much more expandable and keep the Amiga-feel and not be "closed".

The Amiga 1400 will come in a titanium keyboard wedge case with integrated graphics and sound for the low-end user, an internal 2.5" SATA 64Gb flash disk, 512Mb RAM and AmigaOS 4.1. It will use its own BIOS with a Celeron M processor clocked at 1GHz.
4x USB ports with an optional monitor or official Amiga external USB floppy disk drive capable of reading and writing to traditional Amiga floppy disks. CD RW standard on all models, DVD RW optional extra. Cheap as chips £350 with a software bundle.


The Amiga 5000 takes off where the 4000 left off although now the "big box" Amigas come in tower cases. It will include a whopping 2Gb RAM as standard, the new AmigaOS, 8x USB ports, DVD RW, dual Amiga-compatible floppy drives, 500Gb hard disk and PCI-Express graphics and sound (upgradable) and upgradable CPU chip based on the latest Intel range. Starting from £800 you get a lot of power for your money and of course the tradional Amiga-like smoothness and feel to the operating system.

[Akira]

I would like it to be in its classic, "console with a keyboard" form, not inside a PC-like tower/desktop fashion!

[HopperJF]

I feel the same but have carried on with the x000-style for power users, thus put my proposed Amiga 5000 into a tower case.