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[TheMagicM]

However MorphOS got itself a reputation for crashing ( deserved or not ) by being first out the "door

I never heard of that reputation.   People who are running MOS 1.3 know that it is a beta and should accept it as such with whatever flaws it has...thats why they call it a "beta" release?

[DaveP]

You know I said as much myself, and got liberally flamed for it.

Want me to publish a list of links?

In fact, on a topic the other day, Hooligan spoofed the whole debate in a witty way, and you IIRC contributed to that topic, something like "MorphOS is buggy crap, only beta etc".

Heres the quote ( MorphOS on A1 )

Oh no not again

.. But what I have learned from past half a year, they tell, MorphOS is buggy, in beta stage, lacks features etc. etc.

Why would any selfrespecting AmigaOne owner want it when they have OS4 ?

Note that he finds someone calling it in beta stage "smud" so watch your back.
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Ambient was shown on a number of occasions, in public, most famously in WOASE ( ? ) where all people were doing for months afterwards ( even now ) was referring to its buggy nature.

Then we have the video microwave thing that also did the same ( again ).

Point is, its a beta, its not finished, but its in the public eye and people will have their bread and circusses.

You may wish to see here a prime example:
http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?show=1057607185&category=news&number=71#comment

And see how it gets resolved down between me and one other person ( yet others keep butting in to try and start a flamewar over it ).

Dave. :-P

[Dietmar]

>And see how it gets resolved down between me and one other person ( yet others keep butting in to try and start a flamewar over it ).

Now a major motion picture starring Arnold Schwarzenegger

[DaveP]

LOL  :-D

[takemehomegrandma]

@ -D-

Thank you for your post! :-) Very interesting to read.

@ redrumloa

Looking forward to a "maxi-report" soon! ;-)

[Dietmar]

Now a major motion picture starring Arnold Schwarzenegger

Plot summary:

A robot from the Dave P series travels back in time to destroy a dangerous new machine named Pegasos. Unlike its verbally-challenged predecessor ("hasta la vista, babe"), this terminator his designed to kill with words. He's soon tracked down by a renegade terminator from the future, codenamed bbrv. This is a highly advanced dual-brain machine, which, amazingly, meets little suspicion in chat rooms despite its dual structure. Using secret verbal weapons, Peg Pongs, Dave P's electronic circuits are overpowered and rebooted into a harmless state, mildly confused about anything named Pegasos. The original mission seems lost. But then things get real complicated with the arrival of a pair of identical terminators posing as programming twin brothers under the supervision of a Hyperion class terminator, a prototype based on the latest B.E.N. technology.

[DaveP]

Very funny  and extremely innaccurate Now turn that talent to something useful

[takemehomegrandma]

@ Dietmar

 :lol:  :lol:  :roflmao:  :lol:  :lol:

Cheers!

 :pint:

[magnetic]

@Dave P
 Its funny that such a cute avatar can hide such a troll! You are talking absolute BS about MorphOS. I have been running MOS 1.3 since April and it is more reliable than OS 3.9 and Amiga 4000T here.  ** The reason there was no OS4 on a computer for the public's use on the show floor is because IT is Crash Prone and not even BETA yet.. that is sad considering how long they have had the project.
  I do like Hyperion a lot as I like Eyetech and Alan. However, we can all see the AINC is D E A D... long live Amiga!
  Genesi and Pegasos is the way of the future... it is obvious with the organization of the platform, the Amiga people associated with it, and the state its in with Native Applications and a Free Software System.
Hyperion better get OS4 for A1 soon or it's too late...
Although its cool that alot of the MOS native apps can be easily ported... All Amigans need Amiga Inc out of the picture so Amiga can Live!

magnetic

[itix]

would kiss goodbye to the AmigaOS "reputation" for not being responsible for everyday crashes

LOL!

By the way many ex-Amigians remember infamous Guru Meditation very well. Fault in OS or not many still consider Amiga was nothing but an unstable piece of crap.

But AmigaOS was never qualified as a stable operating system. A/Box is same piece of crap as AmigaOS was (in regard of MP).

Anyway, I know some things that can crash A/Box but not AmigaOS.

[Herewegoagain]

Unlike its verbally-challenged predecessor ("hasta la vista, babe"), this terminator his designed to kill with words.

Then maybe Genesi should have let that terminator do the talking at Amiwest, because it was clear that the three or four they had up there didn't have a clue about what they were suppose to be talking about.

  :-P

[Damion]

[gary_c]

Glad to hear someone other than me has picked up on the Hyperion quality obsession.  
I am split 50/50 about whether its a good idea, if they had done what Bplan did with MorphOS and "got it out there" regardless on PPC ....  

As Janne responded to you at ann.lu, the lower layers of MorphOS were done first, and then the higher level things worked on (still in progress), so it was possible to "get it out there" early since the functional parts were ready, and the hardware available. I suppose partly because Genesi was the "outsider," there was greater motivation to create a public impact early on, whereas with the Amiga line, people are accustomed to waiting.

An early beta release hasn't been an option for Hyperion, since they've had the higher-level parts in progress longer, but are still working on the low-level things (though apparently getting close). So it has never been possible for Hyperion to "get it out there" since it only now is running -- to some extent -- on expanded Amigas, and still isn't running on AmigaOnes to speak of.

So at bottom it hasn't been "quality obsession" that has kept Hyperion from releasing a beta of AOS4 to the public. It's been the fact that there isn't a functioning beta to release (or at least hadn't been up to the point of the AOS4 World Tour) equivalent to the early MorphOS releases, and of course still isn't for the AmigaOne, as far as we know. Of course, it could very well be that Hyperion want to keep it in-house until a runs like a Swiss watch, but that's an issue separate from the fact that AOS4 still isn't complete enough to release, except just recently for expanded Amigas.

-- gary_c

[chipper701]

Why the hell can't we have a show in Florida??!! *sigh*

Anyway, IF a show comes to Orlando *hint*hint* let me know and I will check with the hotel about the ammenities, including highspeed access, for ya!

[zacman]

>Why the hell can't we have a show in Florida??!!
>*sigh*
>Anyway, IF a show comes to Orlando *hint*hint*

http://www.morphzone.org/shows/Orlando/

[DaveP]

I am split 50/50 about whether its a good idea, if they had done what Bplan did with MorphOS and "got it out there" regardless on PPC hardware it might have crashed a lot and we would kiss goodbye to the AmigaOS "reputation" for not being responsible for everyday crashes ( although lack of application space crash protection is still annoying ).

See? They could have released it earlier BUT they know they will get crucified if its released earlier than it otherwise would be.

I haven't said "Oh yes well AmigaOS4 would have been released before MorphOS otherwise" or even that this is the only reason.

Sheesh.