Web Browsers

[melott]

I'm sure this has been asked before.....

Is there any hope of a modern type Web Browser on the 68k Amiga ?

I've searched the forums and didn't find much. It appears all hope is gone.

There is a multitude of good software for the 68k Amiga, but the one piece
lacking is a modern type web browser.

I have to beleave it can be done, a browser that will run on a box-stock
68k amiga (an accelerated machine would be a plus).

Maybe the Amiga community could take a lesson from the AROS group.

Offer a Bounty...

I can see why nobody has taken on the project, nothing in it for them.
I'm sure there are still some good coders left in the Amiga community
that are up to the challange, they just need some incentive.
Maybe two or three or more coders could form a group.

If enough people contrubuted (say about $50.00) to the Bounty it should
stir some interest in those skilled coders that are up to the job.
They could perhaps do a 'Lite' version for those who are just looking for
a Freebe and a full version with updates for those who contrubuted or bought
the full version.

I for one would contrubute ........

Mel

[arnljot]

http://www.ibrowse-dev.net/

Its not dead, only slow moving...

AFAIK. Also, I think the rest are either AROS, MOS or OS4

[Caius]

There have been a couple of attempts, none which have finished. It's a rather major task.

Bounties are a good idea, seems to work for AROS. However, there is a significant difference. The main strength of AROS is that it's a proper community. It has a site from which the development effort is focused. There is no such thing in the Amiga 68k "community". I say "community" because there IS NO such thing as an Amiga 68k coding community. It's all scattered. There are a couple of places where you can find some 68k coders (both assembler and C/C++) hanging around, but they're not overly active.

So who would coordinate such a bounty system? The main problem would be lack of focus, because it would be about individual applications, unlike the AROS bounty system which is (currently) mostly concentrating on getting the operating system itself into shape.

So as great as it would be, I don't believe it would work.

[bloodline]

Just back port from AROS, should be easy, Bernd does it with afa.

[melott]

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So as great as it would be, I don't believe it would work.
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I agree, it would be a hard one to get going.
These coders with the skills know who the other coders are.

I kind of thought that if a Bounty actually was to come
about, it might be handled by A.Org.

Mel
 

[Caius]

I just want to clarify a couple of points in my last post. First I'd like to demonstrate what I mean by no active 68k coding community. These are the most active Amiga classic coding forums I know of:

EAB: The coding forum is for the most part assembler coding, and it's about programming the copper and how to make PNG render 1 millisecond faster. See for yourself.

UtilityBase: The AmigaOS Classic - C/C++ development forum has three new threads thus far this year. The AmigaOS Classic - Assembler forum has no new threads since December 1st 2007.

Other coding forums includes the Amiga OS Development right here at a.org. Then you have Amiga Development at amigaworld. Hardly reassuring either.

There are some more coding forums, but they are mostly like the above.

Now, all the above sites are great, but there's nothing that suggests there are grounds for a bounty system leading to a modern Amiga classic web browser.

bloodline wrote:
Just back port from AROS, should be easy, Bernd does it with afa.

That's a good idea. AROS has the AmigaOS3.1 API. But I'm sure there are some extensions as well?

Sorry about being so negative, but I just don't think there is much future in AmigaOS classic. I love it, but I think we'll have to accept that there will be no more major development in this area.

[Caius]

Oh, and feel free to refute any and all of my points. Nothing would please me more than being proven wrong. :-D

[bloodline]

Caius wrote:

bloodline wrote:
Just back port from AROS, should be easy, Bernd does it with afa.

That's a good idea. AROS has the AmigaOS3.1 API. But I'm sure there are some extensions as well?

Not really extensions. One would need to port Robs Ciaro gfx lib to the 68k as well... again shouldn't be too hard... as I think that is sits on top of GCX... probably be dog slow on a regular 68k... but UAE would run it just fine I reckon!

[jj]

what about this then

Amizilla

[Caius]

JJ wrote:
what about this then

Amizilla

Only two links on that site works. Paypal and the bottom link to the main SourceForge site. I also checked out the CVS repository at SourceForge, and from what I can see it's just a checkout of the Mozilla 1.7 repository, and a handful of additions like AmigaOS shared library support. There may be more, but I couldn't find it. Also the last update was 3 years ago.

[zyphoid]

JJ wrote:
what about this then

Amizilla

Yea JJ I feel you on that project, but..

Pressrelease: Amizilla Update


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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!2005 06 28!!!!
AmiZilla is still alive- ROAar! This is a full update of what we've been doing for the last 6 months- work on the NSPR, XPCOM and how exe compiling is going. Plus we've started a multiplatform GTK->MUI(Zune)/Reaction abstraction layer- check out the screenshot and demo exe links!

I've been waiting on this thing (before2005) for so long that i forgot about it.....til you pasted the link again



 

 :-D  :-D

[Nlandas]

Caius wrote:

JJ wrote:
what about this then

Amizilla

Only two links on that site works. Paypal and the bottom link to the main SourceForge site. I also checked out the CVS repository at SourceForge, and from what I can see it's just a checkout of the Mozilla 1.7 repository, and a handful of additions like AmigaOS shared library support. There may be more, but I couldn't find it. Also the last update was 3 years ago.

Use this URL instead - Amizilla

Are there any Amiga programmers left that can take on a project like this? If I thought it had a chance I'd chip in more $$$ and I'm sure others would as well.

The code base for Firefox is too large for me to wrap my rusty C/C++ skills around and I don't have any Amiga API chops. Isn't there someone up to the task of porting it to Amiga?

I'd love to see it.

-Nyle

[Caius]

That's more like it. My favourite item from their webshop: AmiZilla Classic Thong :lol:

[Phantom]

Is there any way ordering a full version of iBrowse (probably a keyfile for the demo version)? As I can see, IOSpirit focus on Mac software, and not Amiga anymore. Any ideas?

[hancock]

anyone notice  " eyeOS " Web application  by eyeOS Team