Amiga 4000 hardware for sale

[weirdami]

Well he is a journalist / presenter who wrote in his column that it was perfectly safe to give out your bank details as there was no way of deducting money from a persons account... only pay in and thus he posted his sort code and account number.

I remember not too long ago some AO members saying the same thing in response to a post where someone was pointing out an ebay auction that had all that information on it. Who's  :crazy: now, huh?

[Jose]

@JaXanim

"This couln't be Bent Binder could it? I guess he will reappear sometime. Remember he scammed over 2500 Euros from AOrg members.
"

That one was german IIRC. I also got scammed by him on that one :-x  A lot of us did actually, can't remember how many but maybe close to 10. The threads about it must still be here .., what I remember the police was contacted but the answer was that he was already facing other legal issues that were more prioritary (? IIRC...) so we thought he was in jail and didn't have money to pay or something...
Would love to get my money back on that one but it probably won't happend.

BTW, the scammer is of course reading these forums so no point setting up anything in a public forum....
Maybe there should be a secret forum available only to older memebers:)

[redrumloa]

Username      toaster46
Join Date    2008/1/21
Last Login    2008/1/21 12:17
Number of posts    1

79.131.80.123

OrgName:    RIPE Network Coordination Centre
OrgID:      RIPE
Address:    P.O. Box 10096
City:       Amsterdam
StateProv:  
PostalCode: 1001EB
Country:    NL

ReferralServer: whois://whois.ripe.net:43

NetRange:   79.0.0.0 - 79.255.255.255
CIDR:       79.0.0.0/8
NetName:    79-RIPE
NetHandle:  NET-79-0-0-0-1
Parent:    
NetType:    Allocated to RIPE NCC
NameServer: NS-PRI.RIPE.NET
NameServer: SEC1.APNIC.NET
NameServer: SEC3.APNIC.NET
NameServer: TINNIE.ARIN.NET
NameServer: SUNIC.SUNET.SE
NameServer: NS.LACNIC.NET
Comment:    These addresses have been further assigned to users in
Comment:    the RIPE NCC region. Contact information can be found in
Comment:    the RIPE database at http://www.ripe.net/whois
RegDate:    2006-08-29
Updated:    2006-09-07

[PaperMario]

how gullible people can get?
I mean really, don't you ever ask for any referral informations before sending your $?
1 post should make you at least suspicious, guy came here and offered some relatively tough to find items.
does anyone have his name?
we may at least warn others about this scumbag  :madashell:

[webmany]

The IP is from Athens, Greece.

[Xamiche]

webmany wrote:
The IP is from Athens, Greece.

He might have been spoofing his IP.

[tokyoracer]

@ Xamiche, Nah it sounds legit, most spoof ones will be in eastern Asia.

[webmany]

Here is the contact info for the ISP.  They likley will not help without a court order, but you can always try.  They will need the time and date of when the user was online.

person:       Karatheodorou Kostas
address:      Network Operation and Management Center - NOMC
address:      OTEnet SA
address:      OTE Building, 3rd floor
address:      47 Mpenaki Str. & Koletti Str.
address:      GR 10681, Athens GREECE
phone:        +30-210-6151600
fax-no:       +30-210-6151900
e-mail:       koskar@otenet.gr
nic-hdl:      KK656-RIPE
notify:       koskar@otenet.gr
mnt-by:       OTENET-GR-MNT
changed:      koskar@otenet.gr 20040205
source:       RIPE

[monami]

"The IP is from Athens, Greece."

doomy is on holiday! 8-)

[Phantom]

Of course you will need court order, but also you will need a good lawyer. But did you imagine how much one good lawyer wants for the case? It's too complicated really. You will try to get your money back (500 euros) and you will finally pay 3x or 4x the amount.

[da9000]

I don't mean to scratch the itch, but I know how it feels to be scammed, and I was almost scammed by this guy (if that's what he was doing - more below). I also emailed him and the conversation went something like this:

"Hey friend, do you still have the Cyberstorm/Cybervision? If so, can you send photos? PS. Are you from Athens Greece?"

And he responded:

"They closed both cards via telephone from Germany. I can't trick the man. I've packaged them and are waiting shipment. Thank you anyhow for your interest."

By "closed" he meant that they have been reserved. And by "trick" he meant, I can't fool the guy and give them to you instead.

Now to me he sounded very proper, HOWEVER I hadn't asked him to give me the cards instead. I just asked if they're still available. Not sure why he thought otherwise or responded like that.

Anyhow, the unfortunate reality is that you can't do jack {bleep} with his IP address and stuff. What's needed is some Greek Amiga users to locate him and beat the {bleep} out of him (assuming he scammed people and didn't just become deadly ill or the package is still in the mail or who knows what). I don't know if he revealed any name, but if you sent money to a bank account then you probably got some name. It seems his last name is Koronidis. Who knows what his first is. There probably won't be that many people with that name in Athens.

Good luck!

PS. I've since email him back and have had bounces from his email box being full. Not as easy as ZXoney, right Rkauer? :-)

[rkauer]

 Eheh, right. Xzoney was a "confused" person, not a scammer.

 My accelerator comes simply too late (over 3 months!), and in the meantime I fired up Ebay, Paypal, the Pope and US police...

 Poor fellow!

 But I think this is not the case of this individual (toaster46), as him offer (and take money from) other amigans.

[da9000]

Hehehe. I don't know how confused he was, but the poor fellow (if what he said is true) lost his job and a lot of other bad things happened all at once. I've had similar situations, but the first thing I'd do is send out those packages! Anyways... I've been emailing this toaster46 guy, but no luck with his mail box emptying up... :-(

[DrFrantic]

Hello all,

i tried anything to get my money back from this cheater, but nothing helps.

My bank dont made an direct debit.

I will post the bank datas from the cheater, if any can made a debit from him, so do it and have fun with stollen money. because he has stollen it from other amiga users:

here the facst

Konstantinos Korontinis
iban:GR7601402970297002101021539
BANK:ALPHA BANK
porto cheli,argolida
Greece
post code 21053

best reguards

doc

[mike-]

Please dont tell me you got scammed for 500 euros... :headwall:

[DrFrantic]

yes i send him 500 euro for a long time, i have read it on www.amigafuture.de before i have found this thread

reguards doc