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Re: I won an a4000 csppc auction! :) *braging and celebrating*
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2008, 04:55:49 AM »
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€840... People like you are sickening the Amiga market. I'm sorry but I'm not happy with those numbers. I hope you use her and not store her as a museum piece like a lot of people.


While I don't feel as strongly about this as the above poster, I do feel it's a waste when someone buys a PPC "only" to play games, play MP3s and watch DVDs (not saying the original poster is going to do this).  In these cases the PPC's full potential goes unused.  I consider this a shame, when such a PPC Amiga would make a big difference to someone doing "productivity" work where horsepower is needed: multi-track audio recording, video editing, ray tracing, desktop publishing, etc.  These sort of things really require a PPC and push it to the limit - also creating something new in the process.

However, I fully acknowledge that it is his money and his property.  So he can buy the PPC board and smash it with a hammer if he so chooses.  I have no right to say anything about it.

It's just too bad that the mad dash for these boards has driven prices so far up - making them unaccessible to most who could really use them.  

But I still hold out the very faintest of hopes that *someone* has something up their sleeve for 2008 (read: new PPC boards to go with the release of OS4 Classic).  :-D
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Re: I won an a4000 csppc auction! :) *braging and celebrating*
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2008, 05:22:29 AM »
like many i would love to own more amigas, a 1200 with ppc or a 4000 or something more than my lowly a500s and 1000s but because the demand is so high the prices are INSANE, yea their amiga and amiga is awesome and some stuff is rare but over a thousand dollars for a 10+ year old pc boggles my mind, or 600+ for just an upgrade card for your decade plus year old desktop? you can get brand new computers and brand new graphics cards for those prices! sure its collectable and its not made any more but jeesus, thats comparible to what it was NEW :-o  im too damn poor for this hobby! you folks are dropping more than i paid for my CAR for these computers!

ill trade you my boxed and modded a1000 for it  ;-)
 

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Re: I won an a4000 csppc auction! :) *braging and celebrating*
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2008, 07:20:29 AM »
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the seller just registered with eBay the same day he listed it. I hope you and the seller are both in Netherlands, and that the transation went well.


I didn't look at the guy's registration date even, just the score. I consider anyone with less than 99% a not-good-enough seller (I didn't say bad, but someone you might have a doubt about - unless the guy has a low score, which means even 1 stupid negative kills his score).

Anyways, Arnljot is in Norway, if I recall right, so in the worse case he takes a ferryboat over to Dennmark and then heads down to Holland for some Viking ass kicking :-D That's what I'd do for that much moolah and a PPC card!
 

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Re: I won an a4000 csppc auction! :) *braging and celebrating*
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2008, 07:25:54 AM »
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"It's just too bad that the mad dash for these boards has driven prices so far up - making them unaccessible to most who could really use them."

I sure wish some new accelerators could be produced, there are still many Amigas out there. I could use one in my A4000T.

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Re: I won an a4000 csppc auction! :) *braging and celebrating*
« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2008, 08:20:32 AM »
It looks like this was a pretty good deal to me.  If you were to try and buy the individual components on Ebay you would be paying more than this system cost.  People are also forgeting how much this hardware cost new.  If this seller bought all of these items new he is taking a sizable loss even at the price this sold for.  

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Re: I won an a4000 csppc auction! :) *braging and celebrating*
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2008, 08:24:46 AM »
These high prices is also what is keeping from buying a csppc.
Even worse i sold my whole A4000 in 2004 with cspppc,mediator,voodoo 3 3000 etc...i wish i never did it.

The good news is that i still do have my blizzard ppc/bvision A1200T.

The bottem line is that these prices are way too much for such old hardware, on the other hand it is basic economics, high demand and low availability raises the price.

Would somebody bring a new fast(er) accellerator card for classic amiga's would lower these prices.
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Re: I won an a4000 csppc auction! :) *braging and celebrating*
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2008, 02:06:37 PM »
The way ppc prices are still rising could mean this was a sound investment.

I'd have bought it if i could afford it but not for investment or collecting....just purely for the pleasure of using it......in my eyes thats priceless.
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Re: I won an a4000 csppc auction! :)
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2008, 03:05:51 PM »
I couldn't do that.

I mean for whoever wants to collect what they want, I say throw your mad money down on what you like. Enjoy it for everyday that you own it.

Now for my own sanity I'm going to put my own personal spin on it. I myself couldn't see my self even spending nearly that much at all for the an Amiga system. Especially if I wasn't going to use it to make a living off of it. That's basically what has dictated all of my purchases lately, if I can make money off of it, or if I really need it.

I might think about spending some cash like that if someone were to actually start producing some PPC cards in substantial numbers. In that case my wallet would be a little more inclined to crack open a little bit. Just thinking about the sheer age of the hardware scares the stuffing out of me. Not to mention that most of that stuff is near impossible to get back, and it's considered some of the most fragile hardware available for this system.

The whole Minimig idea is kinda nice, but for my that's still close a really fancy video game console though. That's fine for those that want that, it's all good and good, I just need more power.

Maybe all these years of being near completely broke have had some kind of effect on me. Many of the years had me having to scrimp for 2 hours to get enough money to buy only  1 gal(3.78 l. for those of you of the metric world) to get job interviews that weren't going to hire me in the first, dealing with credit collectors,taking the city public bus filled with sick screaming children, eating ramen noodles and hot dogs,choosing between rent or lunch for the month  and shameful acts of near poverty.

So for I've had to sell the Amiga 4000 board I was going to actually use in a PPC tower project to one of the worse sellers on eBay, for what was in my mind "whore money". Then the loss of my one Amiga 4000 unit wasn't all to pleasant. Not to mention all the Amiga and Commodore stuff I had to let go of.

Thoughts like buying a candy piece cross my mind, but then I think back to dirty, crazy (that's an understatement!!)men screaming at me and other people on the bus while fondling themselves inappropriately. Peddling 20 miles(32.18km bleh, more metrics) after an ice storm because I have no ride to work. Having to literally work 3 months without any personal money to pay off medical bills because my job doesn't pay enough to offer up good benefits.

Maybe that's the reason I still am keeping my A4k and my A2k, in hopes things "will get better". Some material icon, a placeholder for thoughts and feelings for which I'm in too downward of a spiral to feel. The shining optimism that I too will be able to collect stuff. I'm actually doubting it though anymore.

I speak not with a cupidinous tongue. It is my view that avarice and covetous yearnings are the values of bloodthirsty corporate power mongers. I guess I'm just speaking in a numb fashion of disbelief. I've done the same thing when certain people I know like to watch that "My Sweet 16" or "Cribs" on MTv. Many times I do that at my job when I see people literally spend thousands of dollars on home decor, only to spend more in the next 5 months because it's "not in fashion"

To each his/her own I guess. As for me, I truly see it in a different light now..
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Re: I won an a4000 csppc auction! :) *braging and celebrating*
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2008, 03:21:56 PM »
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People are also forgeting how much this hardware cost new.


People are forgetting that was 10 years ago...  :roll:
 

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Re: I won an a4000 csppc auction! :)
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2008, 03:31:22 PM »
enjoy it, arnljot! and if it is a very earlier CSPPC (like it seems by its clock) you have one of the most robust P5 model ever manufactured! :-)

 

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Re: I won an a4000 csppc auction! :)
« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2008, 03:55:03 PM »
Did you notice the send to location is the Netherlands?

Maybe the guy changed his mind after getting such a high bid otherwise he may still be in for a shock.
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Re: I won an a4000 csppc auction! :)
« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2008, 04:21:43 PM »
I'm a good ebayer and contacted the guy early in the beginning of the aution and discussed a few things. IE shipping to Norway etc.

Thursdsay the bid was at €460, and I put in my €860 bid which was pushed up tp €840 by another bidder.

@everyone
I agree that it's risky to pay so much for equipment that is more than 15 years old, and may break at any moment. And I probably should have spent them on something "smart".

But I think this will be smart, I won't be doing any audio prosject or ray tracing or anything artistic. But I will look into learning how to do OS3x and OS4 c++ coding with it. That is my aspiration as stated earlier.

Also about the sellers rating. Yes, he's new. But it's the Amiga sellers with loads of feedback and items which may be the ones which are most damaging to the amiga community. Since some of them are hoarders who buy cheap and sell expensive. This is a guy who is leaving the amiga, and selling it to a new good home.

So to the one who said I could take a hammer to the CSPPC if I liked... I guess you are right, but that is still sacreligious!! :)

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Re: I won an a4000 csppc auction! :)
« Reply #41 on: January 12, 2008, 04:26:50 PM »
Congratulations! It looks like a very nice machine. As classic goes this is about top of the line. I hope it arrives safely. Please share some pictures as well as a review upon it's arrival.

Most of all Enjoy!

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Re: I won an a4000 csppc auction! :)
« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2008, 06:08:48 PM »
I'd say not a bad investment unless Elbox or some other company (Abox) pulls a rabbit out of their ass and makes new turbo cards for old Amigas or in this case Abox making a completely new computer and together with Hyperion make OS4 run on it.
 

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Re: I won an a4000 csppc auction! :) *braging and celebrating*
« Reply #43 on: January 12, 2008, 08:15:12 PM »
One of the contributing factors that caused me to "Defect" to the PC world was the fact that, for the most part, Amiga hardware was always expensive; even when Commodore went under!  For the cost of adding a used hard drive to my Amiga 500, I could have bought an entire used PC system with a bigger hard drive!

Things are actually more reasonable these days, for the most part, so I decided to get back into the computer I love.  For instance, getting a SCSI controller that handles regular SIMM modules up to 8MB (and is loaded with 2MB) for the A2000 for $51 is actually reasonable.  A mint barebones A2000 for $50 was also a decent price.  

As for using these computers, there is another use besides playing games, MP3's, watching DVD's, and for productivity.  It's a great system for hobbyists to tinker around with.
 

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Re: I won an a4000 csppc auction! :) *braging and celebrating*
« Reply #44 from previous page: January 12, 2008, 09:29:22 PM »
Enjoy it !
It's fair price for a quite well loaded system !
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