MorphOS for AmigaONE

[olegil]

When was this poll done? Remember that the AmigaOne is continually shipping, so basing something on numbers even a week old is _wrong_...

I would once again like to request information on this OF Genesi claims to have for the AmigaOne, because I've never seen it...

[Hooligan_DCS]

@Ole
It's on going. Been for awhile.

[Hooligan_DCS]

@Warface

Ok, maybe "waste of time and money" is a bit off board. Actually that poll was just an example and the one that came to my mind as it's on going.

They are useless if only a small amount of people cast vote, just like in real life political polls. But when we are talking of thousands they are getting more and more reliable.

[Warface]

They are useless if only a small amount of people cast vote, just like in real life political polls.

In real life polls it's unlikely that you can cast your vote twice :-)

However, I respect Genesi for the opportunity, and I hope that there will be many AmigaONE users asking them so, and a demo version of MorphOS for the AmigaONE will born soon.

It will cost them nothing but an email, and a bit of open mindedness.

[Hooligan_DCS]

@Warface

I can't think of a Pegasos user who would waste his or hers time to vote using different proxies... I assume you meant Pegasos users as they are leading atm? It's too freaking hot for such :-)

I have no doubt some people have voted twice, or even three times.. still we are speaking of thousands of voters here. Anyway .. back to the topic.

[takemehomegrandma]

bbrv wrote:
@all interested

If there is a broad desire to have MorphOS running on the A1 we can organize the production of a free demonstration MorphOS CD.

Please send us an email to bbrv@genesi.lu if you have an interest.

Alternately, the tools could be provided for those that wish to flash back and forth at their own risk.  We have had at least two very capable developers suggest they are ready to do this.

Sincerely,
Raquel and Bill  :-)

 :-o  :-o  :-D

[olegil]

Warface wrote:

They are useless if only a small amount of people cast vote, just like in real life political polls.

In real life polls it's unlikely that you can cast your vote twice :-)

However, I respect Genesi for the opportunity, and I hope that there will be many AmigaONE users asking them so, and a demo version of MorphOS for the AmigaONE will born soon.

It will cost them nothing but an email, and a bit of open mindedness.

Except they need to "reflash to OF", and I have still not seen ANY mention of what OF this is. Remember that the original Teron had a 686A chipset, and incompatibilities(whew) between the A and B version of this is why MAI ended up choosing PPCBoot in the first place.

[Targhan]

@BBRV

Thank you as well for taking the time to post here.  The same things apply as what I said earlier to Rogue.

Interesting thought, though, about a demo that can be run on the A1 hardware.

Will Genesi also provide a working OpenFirmware that supports the southbridge in the new AmigaOne? Because I certainly have never seen one that does...

I would venture that if you can run MacOnLinux on your AmigaOne, you have something capable of running MorphOS.

All we have to do is make MorphOS run on a rudimentary Macintosh

[Merko]

As for "porting" OS4 to Pegasos.. wake up, there's no OS4 for the A1
yet! Nothing to port!

In fact, it seems a long way to go, still. At least that was my
impression of what Ben said at the "OS4 on tour" in Sweden. He said
they were in the process of porting the AmigaOS modules from 68k to
PPC, but with custom hardware still present. He said they had done a
few modules, with about 40 to go. Each one would take about 2-3 days,
he thought. Maybe he or any of the Friedens could comment on whether
they have kept that rate so far?

Well, when that's done, I guess Hyperion will want to release OS4 for
PowerUP cards. Then they can start porting it to the AOne. This will
certainly be a lot of work.

I'm sure there are people who are willing to wait forever, but
speculating about ports to the Pegasos at this time is quite useless..
are we talking about the Pegasos 1, 2, 3, 4.. here?


As for porting (releasing) MorphOS for the A1, I guess there are some
issues. It might be a smart move from Genesi if they want to kill off
OS4, by getting the A1 people to run MorphOS "meanwhile". If
"meanwhile" is as long as I think it will be, they might very well be
convinced MorphOS users long before OS4 comes along.

The downside from the Genesi perspective is of course that there might
be some people buying an A1 (despite the price) because they believe
"it is the only system that will run both OS:es". I'm not sure how big
this group is. I don't know how many people bought an A1 yet. Ben
didn't want to tell at the "on tour" show, although he said it was
more than those buying a Pegasos (whether this included future A1
sales, or what number he was comparing to, I don't know). Well, not
too convincing if he can't even give a number out. Personally I think
about half as many A1 sales as Pegasos sales seems like a fairly good
guess, without having any hard figures.

[bloodline]

Merko wrote:
The downside from the Genesi perspective is of course that there might
be some people buying an A1 (despite the price) because they believe
"it is the only system that will run both OS:es". I'm not sure how big
this group is. I don't know how many people bought an A1 yet. Ben
didn't want to tell at the "on tour" show, although he said it was
more than those buying a Pegasos (whether this included future A1
sales, or what number he was comparing to, I don't know). Well, not
too convincing if he can't even give a number out. Personally I think
about half as many A1 sales as Pegasos sales seems like a fairly good
guess, without having any hard figures.

No need to panic there... eventually all machines will run AROS, so it doesn't matter what you bought...

Have fun people!!!!  :-D

[JoannaK]

(edit.. a majore tone-down..)

olegil wrote:
Remember that the AmigaOne is continually shipping, so basing something on numbers even a week old is _wrong_...

IMHO (apperently I need to put this into every posting to keep some smartasses making bunch of nonreplies)..   Not meaning  you, Olegil :-D

It would make a LOT easier for all of us to make this kind of discussions IF Eyetech annouced sales/deliveries on public. But as it is,  only thing left to us is guesswork.  (so.. all numbers in this are just estimations.. nothing more).

[anarchic_teapot]

Neko wrote:

I would venture that if you can run MacOnLinux on your AmigaOne, you have something capable of running MorphOS.

All we have to do is make MorphOS run on a rudimentary Macintosh

Maybe I'm a bit lost here, but it sounds rather like you're implying MOS is a clone of MacOS 9.x - which it isn't - or a variant of xxxxBSD, which I doubt it is either.

Doesn 't make sense, but then I can't understand why people would want to run OSX (basically a tarted-up  *nix clone) using MOL.

Maybe I need another drink  :-?  :-?

[anarchic_teapot]

KennyR wrote:
Technically MorphOS should run on an A1 without much change. You'd have to reflash the A1 to use OpenFirmware though.

Mmmm. While I agree that technically it shouldn't be difficult, I doubt reflashing the ROM would be a good idea : it's the ROM that's got the key to running AOS4 when it comes out (and it is when, not if, with that "when" looking increasingly similar to RSN).
If your ROM has been wiped, you've just thrown your Earlybird licence down the cludgie.

To be sure of being able to use MOS while waiting for AOS4,  and without burning your bridges, either MOS would have to be rewritten to be compatible with uBoot, or else some sort of hardware dual boot method - a bit like the old Amiga ROMS - would be needed.

[Hooligan_DCS]

@anarchic_teapot

Well, cheers then!

[downix]

Last time I checked U-Boot was OpenSource...

OpenSource doesn't mean it's non-proprietory.  All it means is that it's open-source.  Can you find uBoot on other retail-box PPC machines?  Nope.  While it might be open source, it is also a proprietory, that is it does not follow any of the established PowerPC conventions (PREP, CHRP nor POP).