MorphOS for AmigaONE

[Warface]

/me waves! :-)

Hello! Instead of blaming the users for their not-so-well-informedness, some answers to my questions? :-)

[Warface]

The Pegasos I is a discontinued product which has no future and a permanently fixed userbase.

Let's talk about Pegasos then, not Pegasos I.

"Only 600"

Given the number of AmigaONE's sold (of which I have no information, but I doubt that it's many times more than 600) - you are developing for it nevertheless. There will be future Pegasos users as well. An answer please? What number is needed for a port if 600 is not sufficient?

EDIT

A little more progressive answers - instead of reasons why we won't it'd be nicer to hear the conditions you can say yes to.

Untill that it's all about "We won't, and let that be enough". I'm pretty sure if you ask you will receive documentation for the Pegasos.

[HyperionMP]

The main point here is that the AmigaOne userbase is not "closed". It can expand beyond whatever number is has now.

Not so for the Pegasos I.

The Pegasos II (if and when it is released) is a different proposition ofcourse.

But I won't be commenting on that until such time as the hardware is actually commercially released.

[Warface]

But I won't be commenting on that until such time as the hardware is actually commercially released.

Thank you for the answer :-) May I re-ask it then when either OS4 or the Pegasos II is released?

[Damion]

archaic_teapot wrote:

Great idea!

So you're saying it would be normal for a
hardware manufacturer (like Apple) to modify
their hardware at the request of a small
developer in order to run their software?

Anyhow, this is a pointless discussion.
Either "the duo" will make their software
available for 'existing' platforms (like most
do;-)) or not.

And while we're at it, we can pretend that the
moon is made of green cheese and discuss the
effects this will have on the sale of Gorgonzola.

You have quite an odd imagination...

[olegil]

The AmigaOne was never redesigned to accomodate the dongle. That should be a pretty big sign as to how much of an operation we're talking about...

[bbrv]

@all interested

If there is a broad desire to have MorphOS running on the A1 we can organize the production of a free demonstration MorphOS CD.

Please send us an email to bbrv@genesi.lu if you have an interest.

Alternately, the tools could be provided for those that wish to flash back and forth at their own risk.  We have had at least two very capable developers suggest they are ready to do this.

Sincerely,
Raquel and Bill  :-)

[Gaidheal]

Just for kicks....

When can I expect to see MorphOS and AmigaOS4 ported to my x86 PC?

 :-D

The problem as I understand it, is that Genesi do not want to apply for an OS 4.0 license. If they were serious about getting OS 4.0 they would apply. Simple as that.

The problem is, as in reality, that Amiga Inc. are not about to give Genesi a license.

Amiga have some kind of "high standard" that resellers of AmigaOne and AmigaOS 4.x compatibles are supposed to meet with regards to quality and service support.

Although nobody but Eyetech has ever KNOWN what those requirements are.

Asking Fleecy for a list so you can bring your company up to that standard is impossible: he'll ignore you.

Amiga Inc. says that anyone can apply for an AmigaOS 4.x license and for an Amiga branding, even a reseller like Vesalia, but nobody has managed it yet.

It would be good if Amiga Inc. published the standards and requirements, then Genesi might be able to fulfil them and apply for "certification".

BTW this is about Amiga Inc. only.

I'm sure Hyperion would love to port AmigaOS 4.x
to Pegasos. There isn't an issue about "dongling", since there is plenty of stuff in a Pegasos that you can latch onto and use as "authentication".

It'd be painfully easy to add a "Pegasos device" to the OpenFirmware ROM. It'd also be easy to fake that too, I guess, but then it'd also be easy to fake it on a UBoot-style firmware too - remember, it's just a memory area to decode, and UBoot is GPL

[Warface]

bbrv wrote:
@all interested

If there is a broad desire to have MorphOS running on the A1 we can organize the production of a free demonstration MorphOS CD.

Please send us an email to bbrv@genesi.lu if you have an interest.

Alternately, the tools could be provided for those that wish to flash back and forth at their own risk.  We have had at least two very capable developers suggest they are ready to do this.

Sincerely,
Raquel and Bill  :-)

Now that's what I call an answer...

-EDIT-

And I have to admit, the idea of a free demonstration version is better than each I have came up with. Please Hyperion, can we have a similar demoversion of OS4 for the Pegasos too?

It's the best way to show the users of the other side what they are missing out.

[redrumloa]

Having said that, given the fact that there are at best only 600 Pegasos I machines out there and far fewer actually sold, it's hardly worth the effort.

The Pegasos I is a discontinued product which has no future and a permanently fixed userbase.

Sounds exactly like the maket for CyberstormPPC owners to me.

[Hooligan_DCS]

@BBRV
"If there is a broad desire to have MorphOS running on the A1 we can organize the production of a free demonstration MorphOS CD."

What broad desire would that be, when Amiga Future's "Which Compustersystem you use?"-poll indicates that there are twice as many Pegasos's than there are AmigaOnes when 2170 votes have been casted? At least, I'd imagine exactly those proud A1 owners would be the first ones in line to vote for it.

http://www.voteonline4.de/cgi-neu/vote0n.cgi?action=results&thema=696412

Waste of time and money if you ask me.

[olegil]

Flash WHAT?

Will Genesi also provide a working OpenFirmware that supports the southbridge in the new AmigaOne? Because I certainly have never seen one that does...

[Warface]

Waste of time and money if you ask me.

I disagree with. Polls are just polls. Many ignore the polls, some may vote multiple times, whatever - polls are mostly unreliable.

And such a demonstration compilation can be used on a variety of PPC systems - I think not even Apple will mind/can do nothing about a "Buy a Pegasos because we have this" MorphOS demonstration CD.

[olegil]

When was this poll done? Remember that the AmigaOne is continually shipping, so basing something on numbers even a week old is _wrong_...

I would once again like to request information on this OF Genesi claims to have for the AmigaOne, because I've never seen it...