Offended by OS4!

[AMC258]

Okay, I am seriously offended by the OS4 Documentation's misspelling of the work Kernal!  They spelled it Kernel! :-P

[anakirob]

I think you will find that it is you who misspelled kernel.

http://www.yourdictionary.com/library/misspelled.html

[gdanko]

anakirob wrote:
I think you will find that it is you who misspelled kernel.

http://www.yourdictionary.com/library/misspelled.html

You obviously do not know your Commodore lore.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KERNAL

[anakirob]

From the wikipedia "Kernal" page

The (completely different) OS core in the 16/32-bit Commodore Amiga series was called the Amiga ROM Kernel, using the correct spelling of kernel.

So There!

[AMC258]

BAH!  I could write that in Wikipedia too if I wanted. :lol:

In the early days of microcomputers, there were lots of serious spelling errors.  A lot of people designing hardware and software weren't necessarily good spellers; and the people doing the documentation didn't necessarily understand the context of things.

One version of the C=64 manual kept referring to the 'reserved words' as 'reversed words', and I always wondered what the heck was backwards about them!

[anakirob]

Check your Amiga manuals and see if it wrong. (it's not)

We are not talking about the C64 we are talking about the Amiga. The "kernel" is called a "kernel" and MODERATOR EDIT - PERSONAL ATTACK

Now lets never speak of this matter again.

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anakirob wrote:
We are not talking about the C64 we are talking about the Amiga. The "kernel" is called a "kernel" and "AMC256" is called "an idiot".

I've learned from this post the Commodore-only word KERNAL. Only knew the other one. But I understand the thread was a JOKE about spelling / misspelling. Don't take it too serious, man! After all, it's only for fun (I thought Amiga is the fun computer)

[TheGoose]

Oh hell, watch out for the Cornel, he's always starting trouble.

 

[jorkany]

The way things are going with the Friedens suing Hyperion, pretty soon it might be a kerNIL.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

After many years I still do not know what C actually is...

[HenryCase]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
After many years I still do not know what C actually is...

C, as in the programming language? It's the follow up to B, silly! ;-)

So what came before B? A? Not quite. Here's the lineage C follows:

ALGOL 58/IAL -> ALGOL 60 -> CPL -> BCPL -> B -> C

I still like the fact that C++ means C+1. Great geeky humour. :-)

[AMC258]

I always liked that the first page in every C manual says something like "C is named after B, which was created by Bell Labs.  Now, it's obvious what B is named after isn't it?"  And, I'd always think, "NO!  It's not!  Was it named after Bell Labs or A? ARGH!!

Algol is cool!  C sucks!  Actually, it's been years since I remembered what Algol code actually looked like.

Somewhere in a box in my basement, I have a Apple ][ programming book that explains why the Apple Colonel should be called the Apple Core instead.  I always thought it was weird that they thought it was called the Colonel!  Didn't they mean Kernal? :-P  And yes, they did mention the Kernal.  And whatever the heck they called the TRaSh-80 base software.

[HenryCase]

AMC258 wrote:
I always liked that the first page in every C manual says something like "C is named after B, which was created by Bell Labs.  Now, it's obvious what B is named after isn't it?"  And, I'd always think, "NO!  It's not!  Was it named after Bell Labs or A? ARGH!!

:lol:

AMC258 wrote:
Algol is cool!  C sucks!  Actually, it's been years since I remembered what Algol code actually looked like.

Never done any ALGOL programming, but I've done some C programming. How clear is it that the two languages are linked? What features did you like with ALGOL coding?

AMC258 wrote:
Somewhere in a box in my basement, I have a Apple ][ programming book that explains why the Apple Colonel should be called the Apple Core instead.  I always thought it was weird that they thought it was called the Colonel!  Didn't they mean Kernal? :-P  And yes, they did mention the Kernal.  And whatever the heck they called the TRaSh-80 base software.

Really you can call it whatever you want. It's like the OCS/ECS/AGA chip names which added some extra character to Amigas.

Completely OT, but I wanted to complement you on your sig AMC258, very creative, took me a bit of time before I worked it out. :-)

[AMC258]

Never done any ALGOL programming, but I've done some C programming. How clear is it that the two languages are linked? What features did you like with ALGOL coding?

I'm a Pascal programmer, but I can read and understand C as much as I dislike it.  If you know C and Pascal, and you look at Algol, your first thought is that you can see how C and Pascal were both eventually derived from Algol, and you can see how they went totally seperate ways.  

Coding in Algol on a big heavy loud old minicomputer is just pure fun.  I used to have a Wang the size of 4 A2000's (okay, don't blame me if you don't really know what a Wang is! :roll: ) and I would write really stupid Algol programs on it just because I didn't know what else to do with it.  I had free electricity back then and I'd use my Wang to heat my apartment.  Mostly it just displayed the boot screen:

Code: [Select]


W   W   A   N N N  GGG
W   W  A A  NNN N G  
W W W AAAAA N N N GGGGG
W W W A   A N NNN G   G
 WWW  A   A N N N  GGGG


Completely OT, but I wanted to complement you on your sig AMC258

Thanks!  I really appreciate that, I wasn't sure if anyone would care for it.  I was pretty tired one night and I was posting something about OS4 and A500's and I typed hSO without even thinking about it!  And then, I realised I can type most of the Amiga model names that way and quite a few other words!

PS does anyone remember the billboard ad that said "Don't you wish you had a Harry Wang?"

[orange]

@HenryCase

some point that it should be called ++C instead of C++, because IIRC its increased after the operation when you put ++ second (someone will explain it better)