Reasons to run AOS4.0 on Classic PPC instead of AOS3.1-3.9

[amigadave]

I would like to be convinced to purchase AmigaOS4.0 for Classic w/PPC card, but I am able to buy just to support further development, or for the "Cool" factor to have in my Amiga collection, so.................... I would like to hear from those who have already started using it to find out what advantages AOS4.0 has over AOS3.1-3.9.

Please list the Pros and Cons of running 4.0 on a 233mHz PPC Classic Amiga.  Convince me the purchase is worth my money on AOS 4.0's technical merits, not it's sentimental reasons.

(please include previous reasons in your post so we have a complete list in the latest post)

[Framiga]

Roadshow ... the fastest TCP/IP stack for Amiga ever

CDMRW: use a CDRW as it was a floppy

Use Apps not available for AOS3.x (MPlayer/IBrowse to see youtube videos) -DVPlayer- AmiPDF a fast and modern PDF viewer...

Running native demanding apps like YAM2.5 native thats 5/10 times faster than under AOS3.x

Native PPC filesystems

and others ... now i have to go for dinner! :-)

[pjhutch]

How about all those PPC based Amiga games?

Wipeout 2097 (http://hol.abime.net/1737)

Heretic II (http://hol.abime.net/696)

Quake (open source version)

Quake II (http://hol.abime.net/3915)

Shogo (http://www.hyperion-entertainment.biz:8080/amiga)

Freespace (http://www.hyperion-entertainment.biz:8080/amiga)

Gorky 17 (http://www.hyperion-entertainment.biz:8080/amiga)

Nightlong (http://www.clickboom.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?part=nightlong)

[SamuraiCrow]

pjhutch wrote:
How about all those PPC based Amiga games?
-snip-

Ummm... many of those will work on 3.x under WarpOS or PowerUP.  I think Gorky17 requires a better graphics card (than a BlizzardVision, for example) when used in OS4.  I'm not sure about that one.

Furthermore most other games for AGA don't work with partial memory protection active, thus requiring a dual-boot setup with 3.9 or earlier.

[amigadave]

@pjhutch,

Those PPC games don't require AOS4.0, do they?

@Framiga,

Thanks, those reasons are a start on why I might want to run AOS4.0, I hope there are many more though.  I hope others will please add more reasons to this list.

Framiga wrote:
Roadshow ... the fastest TCP/IP stack for Amiga ever

CDMRW: use a CDRW as it was a floppy

Use Apps not available for AOS3.x (MPlayer/IBrowse to see youtube videos) -DVPlayer- AmiPDF a fast and modern PDF viewer...

Running native demanding apps like YAM2.5 native thats 5/10 times faster than under AOS3.x

Native PPC filesystems

and others ... now i have to go for dinner! :-)

[cv643d]

LOL, been asking the same question to myself lately. But for once surfing on an Amiga is actually very nice. I dont know how much that experience is connected to OS4 but it works and its fast.

[redrumloa]

pjhutch wrote:
How about all those PPC based Amiga games?

Umm.. From what I've read, most of those games will not work on OS4 as warpup has been removed :-?

[SamuraiCrow]

@redrumloa

WarpUp was removed from update 4 and later therefore won't work with OS 4 for Classics.  Some of those (the ones from Hyperion) have an OS 4 version but would still be hard-pressed to work on a slow 260 MHz G2-series processor.

[actung_bab]

well l just think with os 4.0 it nice to support it in the fact that they put so much effort into it.

and the fact of the matter it be first time yours and mine ppc cards actually get operating system running on just the ppc side . that switching between was slowing everting down.

and the warp up power up thing is such pain in the bottom.

even know l go to run ibrowse and asking my to terminate
power up when loading grpahics.

so l for one cant wait to buy os 4.0

then with money they get fro os 4.0 they may think its worth while updating it  :-)
where already got awsome new browser and for me thats worth it alone. well its beat right know but hay thats
great start its only been out a month or so

[number6]

@all

I can only speak for my experience on the Micro, but I think you might see some remarkable render times for VistaPro, Lightwave, etc. by comparison with OS3.x.
Might bring some new enjoyment to apps such as those.

#6

[AMC258]

Remember what it was like going from 2.1 to 3.0?  The speed increase is comparable.  I'd not say it's 5-10x faster.  It sure does feel faster though.  Roadshow sucks!  Maybe it's fast, but it sure ain't MiamiDx!

I guess I'll see what the real speed increase is when I start compiling.  What the heck am I waiting for?  I'll go compile something!

I don't regret getting OS4.  I did when I first got it and I couldn't get it to work, but it's growing on me now.  I just wish I could run it on a seperate computer and keep the 3000UX running 3.9 the way it was until I get OS4 running 100% the way I want.  I'm still upset about my RAID drive not working though!

[AMC258]

Well, it's infinately slower!  I cannot compile at all anymore.  Well, that's not true, I can compile but not ASsemble...  for now..  
'as' totally kills the whole system.  I get the Grip Reamer but after that the whole OS locks up.

[pjhutch]

If most existing PPC games work with PowerUp or WarpOS then I wonder how hard is it to convert them to work with AOS 4? If companies converted these existing titles then they have an instant market for them for minimal amount of work !!

[TheGoose]

Uh, for me it will be the cool factor + never really ran anything on my PPC except MAME + I want to try out Milky Tracker:

http://www.milkytracker.net/

So it's like a classic car in a farm garage, with no miles on it, you just found.

 :pint:  

[rzookol]

or you can use morphos for amiga classic which has wrapper (a lot better than os4) for powerup and warpos (warp3d games is working too)