os4.0 and csppc drives

[amiga4001]

Trying to get os4.0 installed and going onto an amiga4000.
I installed it onto a drive onto the internal ide port.
Also connected is a uwscsi drive onto the csppc scsi.
Installed just fine after booting from the 3.x install because the floppy wouldn't boot up (maybe same probelm).
Now it installed just fine but it won't boot up full.
Only If I remove the plug from the uwscsi off the csppc it boots up nicely onto os4.0.
The drive is terminated and provides termpower so that should be ok..
It had always worked well with os3.9 actually.
Settings in csppc early menu are:

only drive 9 on rest off

synchron
reselection on


maprom funtion is off
ram set to 70 Ns.

Help!

[bigmac]

Hi! I could be wrong but I,m sure the scsi ctr is incompatible with 0s4 maybe someone could confirm or deny this.
cheers

[AMC258]

Acube says it works, and it had better!  What the heck else would I use?  None of my other options are supported.

Cyberstorm SCSI A3000 - A4000 YES

Acube's compatibility list

[HammerD]

@thread

The CS PPC scsi controller is supported and works.  I am booting OS4 classic off the hard drive attached to my CS PPC's scsi controller...so I can confirm it works.

I don't know why this poster's isn't booting.  If it boots successfully into OS 3.9 with the same hardware setup then I don't see why it would not also work with OS4.

[bigmac]

A couple of guys over at Amigaworld are having probs regarding termination and the way os4 handles the scsi device to be on the safe side I,d check it out, look in The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread
cheers

[amiga4001]

Termination should be ok but I will try to find a active terminator to go onto the end off the cable.
Maybe the drive isn't providing the correct termination.
There is a sfs filesystem on the harddisk btw.
Don't know iff this matters as it isn't the boot disk,which is the ide.
Maybe I have got a earlier firmware on the csppc and how can I tell by version cybppc.device?
Which one is compatible anyone?
And where is the installation thread for classic on this forum.
Love to has this nice software going onto my uwscsi.

[Framiga]

AmigaOS4 doesn't use at all the original cybppc.device (on startup only, loading 68K stuff) and quite all the other stuff in the CSPPC Early boot menu

and remember (sigh) that PFS3 is not supported for boot partition and annyway on everythings over 4GB

[AMC258]

Well, did you ever get it working?  I had the exact same problem (and a bunch of others!) and it was because I had PFS3 on the partition I installed to.  I installed SFS via MediaToolBox and alles gut.  MediaToolBox also corrected my SCSI settings (!) which I had set more conservatively just to be sure the install would work.  So, it is probably a good idea to run MediaToolBox and check out the install partition before installing!

[amiga4001]

No I can't seem to get it to go.
It seems very important that harddisk is totally free from strange filesystems.
As soon as there are traces off SFS or PFS uit gives problems it seems.
I degraded my ssytem to ide only so an ide harddisk off 4GB and a ide cdrom.
I booted off the floppy and used mediatoolbox to partition the harddisk.
This with the OS4 template so that should be ok.
After that I formatted the harddisk(quick) and then I installed os4.
If I then try a coldstart it boots up ok till the first erset then it tries to load on stops and gives a very fast red flash on the screen booting stops.
If I boot from the cdrom all is well.
Is the cdrom software also 100 PPC based or is my ppc not too good anymore?
I also cannot get into mediatoolbox again using the scsi.device it freezes on the scan.
It's a 10 GB harddisk on the ide bus which I previously partioned with the same mediatoolbox.

Help!!

[AMC258]

I'm getting nowhere either, and neither is the guy on the other side of town who we installed 4.0 on his 3000 today.

It seems the install CD is pretty much the same as the installed OS, if it works, your PPC is working.

I NEED too boot from my RAID, and as soon as OS4 starts booting (after the rekick), it freezes the SCSI bus.  Without the RAID, everything is okay.  This is no use to me. :madashell:  

On top of it, I had to steal the Ariadne from one of my 2000's just to get back on the network, and due to the boot sequence on my 3.9 partition, I get total lockup on boot because the Meditator netcard isn't installed.  I have half a mind to install both netcards and use each one for a different OS! :crazy:

[Crumb]

Your scsi chain is probably not correctly terminated.

OS3.x driver is more tolerant to wrong configurated scsi chains.

Use proper active terminators at each end of the scsi chain instead of HD/CD unit terminators.

[Framiga]

amiga4001 wrote:
No I can't seem to get it to go.
It seems very important that harddisk is totally free from strange filesystems.
As soon as there are traces off SFS or PFS uit gives problems it seems.
I degraded my ssytem to ide only so an ide harddisk off 4GB and a ide cdrom.
I booted off the floppy and used mediatoolbox to partition the harddisk.
This with the OS4 template so that should be ok.
After that I formatted the harddisk(quick) and then I installed os4.
If I then try a coldstart it boots up ok till the first erset then it tries to load on stops and gives a very fast red flash on the screen booting stops.
If I boot from the cdrom all is well.
Is the cdrom software also 100 PPC based or is my ppc not too good anymore?
I also cannot get into mediatoolbox again using the scsi.device it freezes on the scan.
It's a 10 GB harddisk on the ide bus which I previously partioned with the same mediatoolbox.

Help!!

i have here AmigaOS4 installed on a SFS partition  (mandatory, PFS3 is not supported as boot partition)

Then i have some other PFS3 partitions BUT all under the 4 GB barrier (AOS4 cybppc.device doesn't supports TD64)

About the scsi.device, the boot partition MUST be under the 4 GB barrier anyway.

[spirantho]

How many devices do you have on your chain? Remember:

* One device must provide TermPower
* BOTH ends of the chain must be terminated. I.e.

Terminator (no TermPower) -> CSPPC -> Hard Disk (Terminated with TermPower)

will work. However:

CSPPC -> Hard Disk (Terminated with TermPower)

will NOT work because one end is unterminated.

My system has SFS, PFS3 and FFS on it - the PFS3 partitions don't work outside the first 2GB or something, but they don't stop the rest working...

[amiga4001]

I am only using ide disk now with a ide cdrom.
It boots up till first reset and then a tiny bit loading and stops.
If I boot with the harddisk till it stops and the insert the OS4 cdrom and reboot it boots nicely upto OS4.
If I reset again then it boots off the harddisk ok (not always but most off the time).
There is a buster -09 chip on the mobo is that a problem maybe?

I am also checking iff the firmware isn't causing problems off the csppc.
I booted upto os4.0 and did version cybppc.device and got version 52.2 out ..ok?
It freezes almost everytime I ask for the scsi.device in mediatoolbox.
Just wanted to check the fastfilesystem in the RDB but that is a no go now.

[amiga4001]

Don't want to open a new forum so sorry for reply to myself.
I found out why it doesn't want to boot OS4.0.
The problem is the ppc soldering..I think.
The 060 already has been fixed by amigacenter and that part is 100%.
But the ppc side needs a push downwards to boot up.
I know it is not advisable to push against the ppc but as there is no company which can do these repairs I will make a bracket which pushes it down.
Don't think a small force is that bad for the ppc.