Deal of the century... for me anyway...

[Invisix]

So I was searching through eBay last week and stumbled upon an absolute GEM! A Sound Blaster 16 SCSI-2 (CT1770) sound card, complete with it's ORIGINAL box (still has original factory plastic wrapping), all original drivers, all original additional software, all original manuals, and inserts, and get this... it even has an ASP (CSP) chip installed (very rare)!

Everything is in absolute MINTY-MINT condition, everything looks brand new, and is 100% in working order! The "Multimedia" Encyclopedia hasn't ever been opened. :-o

The auction started off with being only .25 cents USD. Luckily I bid roughly $10, or I would have lost this auction; I went out and about to town. Needless to say the auction ended at only $8.50.

I'm one happy person right now! :-D


This picture doesn't due the overall mintness of the product justice, but it get's the point through.

[keropi]

nice!!!!!

[alexh]

Is this card of any use with a classic Amiga (apart from with bridge boards like the GoldenGate 486slc2)?

[meega]

Is it ISA ?

[keropi]

no amiga can only use it with a pc bridgboard...
still a great catch for a vintage card... I my self have ~15 old sb's, including all roland and creative 8bit ones...

[Amigaz]

Damn, I think I was the 2nd highest bidder on this one
My top snipe bid was 8 USD

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150190443759

 :lol:

Nice card btw, one of the best for vintage DOS gaming

[Invisix]

AMIGAZ wrote:
Damn, I think I was the 2nd highest bidder on this one
My top snipe bid was 8 USD

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150190443759

 :lol:

Nice card btw, one of the best for vintage DOS gaming

LOL! Yep, that's the exact auction I won.  :rtfm:  8-)

Also, yes this is indeed one of the best, the quality is amazing. It oddly for some reason sounds better than the SB16 Value and SB16 Vibra that I was using.

[Invisix]

keropi wrote:
no amiga can only use it with a pc bridgboard...
still a great catch for a vintage card... I my self have ~15 old sb's, including all roland and creative 8bit ones...

@keropi

You have a Roland LAPC-I? :-o

I was recently on a website that compared alot of classic ISA soundcards, and was absolutely amazed by the quality of music the Roland produced. I had never heard Roland nor GUS audio until I visited that website. Just listen to the Monkey Island, Space Quest 3, Silpheed, and Descent MIDI music from SB/Adlib FM Synthesis vs. Roland and GUS... you just can't compare. :lol:

Here is the website URL for anyone interested, it pretty much is a brief look at PC audio from the PC-Speaker to circa. 1995 sound cards. http://www.crossfire-designs.de/index.php?lang=en&what=articles&name=showarticle.htm&article=soundcards&print=true

[BlackMonk]

meega wrote:
Is it ISA ?

Yes.

[Amigaz]

Invisix wrote:

keropi wrote:
no amiga can only use it with a pc bridgboard...
still a great catch for a vintage card... I my self have ~15 old sb's, including all roland and creative 8bit ones...

@keropi

You have a Roland LAPC-I? :-o

I was recently on a website that compared alot of classic ISA soundcards, and was absolutely amazed by the quality of music the Roland produced. I had never heard Roland nor GUS audio until I visited that website. Just listen to the Monkey Island, Space Quest 3, Silpheed, and Descent MIDI music from SB/Adlib FM Synthesis vs. Roland and GUS... you just can't compare. :lol:

Here is the website URL for anyone interested, it pretty much is a brief look at PC audio from the PC-Speaker to circa. 1995 sound cards. http://www.crossfire-designs.de/index.php?lang=en&what=articles&name=showarticle.htm&article=soundcards&print=true

Nothin' special with a Lapc-I, have one too  :-D
If you have these old SB16's you must have Lapc-I to be accepted  :lol:

My retro PC (Lapc-I at the bottom):

[Invisix]

ARGH!!!  :-o  :oops:  8-)

Can you some how channel game MIDI through the Roland and effects through the SB16?

[Amigaz]

Invisix wrote:
ARGH!!!  :-o  :oops:  8-)

Can you some how channel game MIDI through the Roland and effects through the SB16?

I just connect the output from the Lapc-I to the SB16 INPUT and let the SB16 mixer do the job so I have everything coming out of the SB16 LINE OUT into my 2.1 speaker system  :-)

[Invisix]

Awsome, I was wondering if that was possible, and now I know. Thanks AMIGAZ for that bit of information. :-D

Hmmm, now to wait patiently for me to come up with funds + decent eBay auction for a Roland LAPC-I. :lol:

[BlackMonk]

Invisix wrote:
Also, yes this is indeed one of the best, the quality is amazing. It oddly for some reason sounds better than the SB16 Value and SB16 Vibra that I was using.

I wonder...

- Sound Blaster 16 Value Edition - No ASP socket or Wave Blaster header. A cost-reduced board.
- Vibra 16 - A cost reduced SB16 with Plug and Play, but lacks separate bass and treble control, ASP socket and Wave Blaster header.

Vibra had no independent bass/treble?  Maybe the Value was the same?  Maybe it really DOES sound better and you are NOT going crazy!

...or maybe both is true!

[Invisix]

BlackMonk wrote:

I wonder...

- Sound Blaster 16 Value Edition - No ASP socket or Wave Blaster header. A cost-reduced board.
- Vibra 16 - A cost reduced SB16 with Plug and Play, but lacks separate bass and treble control, ASP socket and Wave Blaster header.

Vibra had no independent bass/treble?  Maybe the Value was the same?  Maybe it really DOES sound better and you are NOT going crazy!

...or maybe both is true!

Yeah the Sound Blaster 16 Value, Sound Blaster 16 Vibra, and Sound Blaster 16 WavEffects sound cards are all cheaper/cost reduced cards which definately could affect the overall audio quality, which I think is the case in this matter.

Also, yes, all Vibra chip cards have NO bass/treble control, this however is not true for all Sound Blaster 16 Value as they have bass/trebel control; as long as it doesn't have a Vibra chip.

So to sum things up, apparently having a real Sound Blaster 16 card (original models) and not later models is a must have for superb quality and clearity.