To buy or not to buy...

[bloodline]

alexh wrote:

bloodline wrote:
But those Games/Demos would run fine on the 68020 already in the A1200... Just disable the PPC card when you don't need the CPU power.

It means you have to reboot, run the game or demo and then reboot. Not very user friendly.

If the Game/Demo hit the hardware in such a way that it couldn't use an emulated 68K you would have to reboot anyway...

Anyway, point well made... One could simply run MorphOS for Classic Amigas... that is Free, right? Ok then!

[TiredOLife]

I'm sure Starstruck ran on my 060 without stutters.
You have got me thinking now.
I will have to try it again tomorrow.

[Damion]

-D- wrote:
F.e, a lot of demos run much better because of the 68k emulation (faster than any real 68k as I understand it), yet they still have access to the AGA chipset.

Is that true? I know that Trance (the MorphOS 68k emulator) can be faster than a regular 68k but do the majority of games and demos even run with it?

I dont know, I dont have a PPC.[/quote]

Yeah, such is the word on morphzone. I'm not sure about compatibility, but I've heard mention of several demos running this way, and running a little smoother due to the increased 68k (emulated) horsepower.

The demo you mention is a very late demo, 2006, and may have been written with MorphOS in mind. Not that I am saying it was... it just might have been.

Curious.

AFAIK it was intended for real 68060 and AGA, but you never know. I imagine it would run better that way since it seems it needs a little more CPU.

@TiredOLife

I have yet try Starstruck above 50 MHz, but it does seem to bet a bit choppy here and there at that speed. I'll have to to some more checking sometime soon also, maybe there was something else about my config it didn't like. I'm hoping it does run better though, as I bought my last 1260 card almost exclusively to run some recent TBL releases, LOL.

[Fixer]

@Moto

Going off further comments, it sounds like you're only real option would be to dual-boot. Well, that's if you really HAVE to own and run OS4.

I personally think this is a lot of hassle. I mean.. how much lifespan do these PPC cards have left in them anyway?

[motorollin]

@-D-
Starstruck run perfectly on my A4000 (see sig) - no stutter at all.

@Fixer
The prospect of dual-booting isn't ideal. It would basically mean I would boot in to OS4, look at it and think "that's nice" then boot back in to 3.9 to play some games :roll:

What do existing OS4 users use their OS4 installation for?

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moto

[motorollin]

Difference between cost of season ticket and daily train fare > credit card balance + iPhone
Monthly saving of credit card payments > iPhone contract

Hmmmm.....


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moto

[alexh]

motorollin wrote:
iPhone contract

What's that? ;-)

[motorollin]

It's the thing that gives me unlimited data :-)

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moto

[Piru]

@alexh

Is that true? I know that Trance (the MorphOS 68k emulator) can be faster than a regular 68k but do the majority of games and demos even run with it?

Trance is as compatible as the static emulation, pretty much. Trance has no blacklists for example.

Obviously apps that use self modifying code will fail, but those would fail with >68010 CPUs anyway.

I'd estimate many games / demos don't work because they hit too low level HW, not because of the lacking CPU emulation.

[jj]

You could always run EUAE on OS4, but god that would crawl on a 603e or 604

[bloodline]

motorollin wrote:
It's the thing that gives me unlimited data :-)

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moto

It's worth it!

[bloodline]

Running UAE on a BlizzPPC is a very traumatic experience and not one I'll bother to repeat!

[motorollin]

So it looks like I have 2 options:

1. Get a CSPPC
a. Use OS4 for whatever people use OS4 for
b. Use OS3.9 for games

2. Keep my MKIII
a. Miss out on whatever people use OS4 for
b. Use OS3.9 for games
c. Get an iPhone :-D


So really what I would like to know is this: OS4 users, what do you actually do in OS4? What tasks do you perform in OS4 that you can't do in OS3.9, or perform significantly better in OS4 than they do in OS3.9?

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moto

[bloodline]

I think you know the answer!

[motorollin]

What, the answer to "what do people do in OS4"? Is it "not much"? ;-)

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moto

[jj]

No bloodline means get an Iphone  :lol: