Dan wrote:
PSU noise I can live with, but CPUfan is to loud.
I looked inside the case and found a 6cm Spire 12V fan and an aluminium heatsink. Would a big slow case fan help?
http://www.zalman.co.kr/english/product/cnps6000Cu.htm
Looks like what I want.
How loud is 20dB? compared to PSU fan?
Pretty quiet, likely. The thing I don't like about Zalmans is less their mediocre results (not that extra cooling is important, but I like to 'nudge' AMD chips to their highest safe FSB - thus I had my 850MHz T-Bird unlocked to run at 133MHz/266DDR, resulting in a marginal overclock - 866MHz - but that much faster memory access)... than the fact that their fan brackets down to your slot covers, and thus requires one of those ricey side-grilles to function efficiently (and makes it dangerous to run your machine while swapping cards in those slots, obviously).
Personally, I ran my 850, thus-clocked, with a Thermaltake Mini Super Orb, but the noise drove me insane and the fan bearings started going rather quickly. I replaced it with one of Antec's Molex-style units, which, while not killer in silence, was much less annoying, and performed reliably up until I took the system apart. (I gather Molex's real designs are even better, as the Antec's fan was sort of permanently molded on to their shroud.)
This is the Antec I'm thinking of; they were available at CompUSAs and probably Staples, rated up to 1.4GHz or so. That guy's demonstrating a big DON'T in the installation, though - you should never push down on a heatsink on an exposed-core chip, as the leverage applied is a recipe for cracking; put pressure only on the clip, even if it takes you a while to get it latched.
AMD also has excellent datasheets on their site; the chips are *designed* to run up to 60C or so, depending on model. They list dissipations and all that, so you can comapre your Duron to the models the various heatsinks around are rated 'up to.'
Soundproofing is isolation which would require a faster airflow, wonder how silent it would be in if i put it in a closet or made a wooden frame around it?
If you're not in the room, I'd hope you can't hear it. Wood conducts sound, so that wouldn't be much help unless you're adding padding (like one of those old dot-matrix printer enclosures). People are fond of car audio products, like Dynamat; I've always been interested in trying some Noisekiller or Roadkill (spray-on deadening foam products, rather hard to track down, and a bit pricey).
Does the Hush Mini ITX EPIA M10000 Nehemiah 1000Mhz run without a fan???
Would love to run AROS on a fanless MiniITX board.
Yep. Via chips are your only option with the Hush products for now.
So it´s possible to run a highspeed G4 without a fan?
No-doubt depends on the G4. The Beige G3 here (based on the original IBM 750 design; I forget if it had letters after it) has no "fan," but it has a heatsink the size of your fist, two gigantic, loud power supply fans, one that ends up directly over the CPU with the cover closed, and a piece of metal that apparently serves as a thermal bond (attaching the heatsink to the metal of the case) as much as a grounding contact.
Stupid pc engineers why dont they mount the processor on the otherside of the motherboard then it would be possible to use the whole side of the tower as a heatsink. And making a powersupply that replaced the top of the pc case with a heatsink would be easy. The outside of the case has an unlimited airflow after all so it wouldn´t need a fast, if any fan.
Last I checked, most people put their machines places like under desks, in racks, etc. People were fond of killing their Mac cubes by resting papers or CDs atop the 'chimney.' (Hmm, maybe they shouldn't have made it flat..) Surfaces can only radiate heat so fast, safety and RFI guidelines have to be met, and so forth. (Pop open your power supply sometime, and touch one of the heatsinks- in many designs they're hot, and I don't mean in temperature.) Manufacturers are also mostly interested in ideas that can apply equally to racks and other server-type enclosures, now that desktops are a low-profit commodity game.
Now, some of the recent Shuttles use heatpipes and radiators with large-diameter fans; perhaps you should check out that hardware, and see if it can fit in your case (or if it'd be cheaper to swap your chip into the usual case/mainboard combo they're sold as)...
