So where are the ACK Amigas?

[da9000]

I usually try to avoid these dead-end threads, but I'll make an exception...

Dear Ral-Clan, he (Bill McEwen, CEO of Amiga Inc) never was an Amiga enthusiast. He was hired by Gateway as an evangelist for their then-bought Amiga intellectual property (I've heard rumors, which I'd love to see better substantiated, which state that was his first glimpse of an Amiga). A SALESman basically. And what do salesmen do? Lie. That's their job. Maybe not 100% lies, but very much like any orange juice or any other fruit juice you buy in our MODERN age: mostly water, 20% or less actual fruit juice. In small type.

So guys, please don't question an obvious matter - don't beat the darned dead horse no more. If you're pissed about the lies, do something: like hack their site, DOS them, send them stinky packages, visit their "HQ" and do something spontaneous, (a-la Bill Gates + cream pie in Belgium - that would rock!) but please, don't sit here and munch out our ears.

The future of Amiga lies with these companies/projects (until something new and totally unexpected comes out of nowhere like a bat out of hell to dominate the Amiga world! :-D ):
MiniMiG
AROS
Morph OS
Amiga OS 4 / Hyperion
DiscreetFX
Individual Computers / Clone-A (Jens Schoenfeld)
Elbox
Acube
AmigaKit / Vesalia
Amiga Round Table
All our lovely forums (a.org!) and websites
Amiga shows: ATTEND them, you cheap b******s! (you = plural, not for Ral-Clan)
Amiga demo parties: ATTEND you lazy b******s! (you = plural, not for Ral-Clan)

This is a quick list and I'm sure I've forgotten some decent people, but excuse my memory and note that NOWHERE in there is Amiga Inc mentioned. That's because it ain't the future, but the demise of anything Amiga. I would have wished 10 times the evil witch Trammiel or the other greedy and incapable Commodore moron executives/business drones had held onto Amiga, or even ESCOM, or even Gateway, because they were LESSER evils than this new entity. They could at least deliver *something*.

Enough said. Save your breath, your money, your energy, and give it to the guys who need it most: MiniMiG, AROS, etc.

[spihunter]

@Da9000,

Wow, Pretty much right on there at this point. But we are still at the mercy of companies as long as AmigaOS are being controlled by Amiga INC

[da9000]

Hi Spihunter,

you are right about the fact that Amiga Inc controls Amiga OS and other IP, but yet I feel that this type of tyranny will not hold for long in the "new world" - the connected (via Internet) world, where open source and MASSIVE, UNHINDERED communication between all involved parties (us, the users, developers, fans!) will allow us to better defend our selves and eventually win.

In the old world, they (corporations) had all the power because they could muster an army (of lawyers) against us (the individual hackers), but we couldn't. Now things are changing, and we can amass together, and they won't be able to interfere so much. Linux and its evolution is a close paradigm to this.

Anyways, my point simply boils down to: if a large number of Amiga users want something that is not economically viable for Amiga Inc (ex. MiniMig or AROS), well then they won't be able to do anything about it. They will either keel over and die (I surely hope so in this case), or join in the fun (I surely hope NOT - they don't deserve an ounce of it!)

Last point: don't forget boys and girls: we learned from Microsoft. They use FUD - fear, uncertainty and doubt to scare you away! Don't yield! Fight - fight for our Amiga!

Cheers to all real Amigans!

PS. I'm not sorry for the polemic speeches - I hope it gives hope to those that have run low on hope (or had their sucked away by Amiga Inc's doings), because there IS hope!

[persia]

Elvis has them.

[Belial6]

To be fair, Amiga Inc does supply Kick Start.  Clanto is not a pirate organization.  We can assume that they are paying Amiga Inc money to have the legal right to distribute the Kickstart rom images in Amiga Forever.

[AmigaHeretic]

To be fair, Amiga Inc does supply Kick Start. Clanto is not a pirate organization. We can assume that they are paying Amiga Inc money to have the legal right to distribute the Kickstart rom images in Amiga Forever.

To be fair.  As far as the "rom" image itself goes, I'm sure Cloanto had to come up it with that themselves and I'm sure they had to devise the "key" scheme to protect it all on their own before Amiga Inc. would give their blessing.

I'm also sure the only thing Amiga Inc. has done is collect money off of Cloanto's hardwork.

Now, the really sad part is that this "Amiga Inc." (Deleware is it now???) company may or may not really even own the rights to "Kickstart" anyway and may have been taking money that doesn't belong to them this whole time.   :roll:

[Crumb]

ACK! ACK! ACK! ACK!

ACK! ACK! ACK! ACK!

[Methuselas]

TiredOLife wrote:
Is there no truth in the rumour (Just started now by me) that there is a slight delay so they can jointly announce the New ACK Amigas and Elbox Shark PPCs? :roll:

I thought of that too, *BEFORE* I read this. ;P

[monami]

@ crumb  ACK! ACK! ACK! ACK!
 :lol:
i bought that movie for cristina applegates appearence in it. it's her best role to date!

[Plaz]

@da9000

PS. I'm not sorry for the polemic speeches

Hey, I liked them.

Plaz

[Plaz]

Several announcements had the sub-heading that the low-level board would be released by summer 2007

Here's my theory.....

A. Inc has said once or twice before that the new boards couldn't be completed without access to the sources to OS4. I think those statements were more to influence the community to pressure Hyperion to release the code than to actually finish a product.

After all these years of nothingness from A. Inc, I suspect they're not much more that an IP bank collecting fees on old patents. How does that work anyway? Patents are supposed to expire after 20-21 years from their filing. Copyrights on the other hand are much longer.

Plaz

[cpfuture]

@da9000: Well said!! Good posts.

[McVenco]

ral-clan wrote:

Heck, even if they just burned legal KS3.1 chips by hand and sold them in cardboard boxes with photo-copied manuals they'd be doing more for the Amiga community

Nah, there are enough people doing that already :-)

[persia]

Amiga Inc is basically an outsourcer of American IT jobs to India.  Bill likes the idea of producing something related to the original Amiga / Commodore or perhaps he likes the idea of announcing something, but clearly in Amiga Inc a VP has about as much say as the tea trolley lady in what actually is produced.

SO I guess if Bill says it then to him it's the same as actually doing it.  The "open letter" on Amiga's website was apparently written this way or perhaps written in a parallel universe.  The letter killed any faith I had left in the company.  More Amigas than ipods!  From a company that changes name every six months to avoid creditors, give me a break.

[fatman2021]

NEWS FLASH AMIGA INC. IS RUN BY GREMLINS......

[da9000]

Thank you Plaz and cpfuture! I'm happy that I have an audience ;-)  [anyone who's got a Pink Panther mascot is cool by my book :-)]

Also love all the other caustic comments. So creative! Amiga-style! That's the spirit guys! No need to be afraid! Next step: to take our fate on our own hands: support the open and *productive* projects by giving our monetary vote. Spread the the word. Keep the ball rolling. 2008 is looking very promising!