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Offline trekiejTopic starter

Windows Vista Premium
« on: November 28, 2007, 07:13:21 PM »
I maybe getting Vista for Christmas.
For those who has used it, what do you think of it?
Technically what is wrong with it?  Please just do not say it sucks.
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I guess that there are as many opinions as there are hardware manufacturers.
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Re: Windows Vista Premium
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2007, 07:16:50 PM »
I bought a laptop last year with XP with an update to Vista which came out later. I installed Vista and frankly it sucked. I went back to XP in less than two weeks.

Why?

It was noticably slower than XP.
It continously bugged me with all kind of requestors.
It wasn't compatible with all software I have (Magix Music maker; I know sucky program but I just wanted to try it).
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Re: Windows Vista Premium
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2007, 07:28:30 PM »
@flashlab
What were these requesters?
Is it slower on dual core as well?
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Re: Windows Vista Premium
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2007, 07:29:59 PM »
I haven't used it but I was an early adopter of Windows XP.  I hated it it was terrible so bad I didn't use that brand new PC or any PC for that matter for like two years then one day I loaded service pack two on it and alias it worked pretty well and I still use that computer today.  I suspect Vista will be the same.  I bought a Mac in 2003 Its updated with the latest os 10.5 it runs better than when I bought it too however I've used it a ton during all my years of ownership.  Vista just isn't finished from what I see and Microsuck has to release it to maintain its relevance to maintain its monopoly.  But believe me too much is riding on it to not work eventually. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Re: Windows Vista Premium
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2007, 07:30:21 PM »
I know there is a user here who says there is nothing wrong with Vista, but sorry to say, it just plain blows :P.

But I will back it up with reasons why. Put it this way, vista is the Windows Millenium.  Lets hope they release another Windows OS to replace Vista.

I tried Vista on a dual core 3800+ AMD cpu, 2gb dual channel ram, and Sli'd Geforce 7600 gt video cards...  With those specs, Vista is "usable" not fast, but usable....  After playing a single game of quake 4, all of the 2gb was nearly filled of the ram.

Another thing I disliked was the fact that when I wanted to simply find one thing on Vista, it seemed like you had to click literally through tons of options before it brought you to it, whereas on XP, you click Start/Settings/Control Panel.

You do not get a performance gain if you install Vista.  Heck, i use the 32-bit version of windows xp pro on my dual core 4200+ setup.  Reason why 64 bit is not on here because it makes 0 difference when I run and play my games.  Maybe for some, but the ones I care to play, it made the same exact FPS.

To me, XP is definately one to stick with and use.  If im forced out of XP, then im jumping right in to Ubuntu Linux, no questions asked.  :-)
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Re: Windows Vista Premium
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2007, 07:33:41 PM »
My laptop is dual core; so yes it's slower the XP on that too.

The requestors are of the "Are you sure you want to...?" kind and pop up everywhere.

I'll stick with XP for some years. In the future you can't ignore Vista probably because software will demand Vista or DirectX 10 I guess.

Vista really has gotten me interested in Macs to be honest: I'm considering selling my laptop to buy a MacBook Pro.
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Re: Windows Vista Premium
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2007, 07:36:04 PM »
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Re: Windows Vista Premium
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2007, 07:39:42 PM »
Many people complain that Windows Vista is so bad, it does this, does not to that, ect...

Well, I have been using it for about three or four months now and I will not lie, at first I could not stand it.  But after playing with it for a while and figuring things out I love it.  I have an HP Pavillion with Intel Celeron 2.93 GHz, 766 megs of memory and two 40 gig hard drives.  I will admit that on this system Vista does not fly but you know what, it works.  I am just so tired of hearing so many people saying they dislike vista based on a 1 or 2 week trial without really getting into it.  I have no regrets at all.  Also, I am a proud owner of an Amiga 2000T with OS 3.9.  I don't use my real Amiga too much but I do use the latest version of WinUAE of the PC mentioned above and again, no problems at all.
 

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Re: Windows Vista Premium
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2007, 07:47:05 PM »
@Dmaster
Isn't there ways to turn off features you do not want to speed up the os?
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Re: Windows Vista Premium
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2007, 07:52:52 PM »
@ DMaster

Well, it bugs me that some people won't let others have their opinion without saying it tires them.

I have paid for the Vista upgrade and I don't like it; I'm not   paying to not like it, ok? Am I to work with an OS I don't like to let it grow on me so that I may love in the future? That's some twisted thinking there...

I have a pretty powerfull laptop; it can run Vista with all bells and whistles in Aero. If you want eye candy; I was more impressed with the Ubuntu live cd I tried and that was free.
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Re: Windows Vista Premium
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2007, 07:54:15 PM »
Yes there is. You can have a Windows Classic desktop if you want. Somehow the icons looked ugly though (big blocks around them like WB3.0/1 ;-))but you can probably fix that too.
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Re: Windows Vista Premium
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2007, 08:13:49 PM »
I installed vista awhile back and it's fine with me. It boots a lot faster than XP did on that machine. I turned off Aero and switched to classic view, which is what I do on XP anyway.  It wasn't that Aero was bogging the machine, it was just ugly as hell and kind of pointless.

Control panes and stuff are changed around, but thats no big deal, just switch to classic view on those as well if you want. All my programs run just fine on Vista save for a few poorly written ones, and to get those to install I simply kicked off a CLI with system priv and ran the installer for the app and it worked just fine.

Over all a very positive experience. It is kind of pointless to go out and buy a Vista upgrade though. Just wait until you get a new machine that comes with it.
 

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Re: Windows Vista Premium
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2007, 08:23:55 PM »
The speed difference between Vista and XP is noticeable, with XP being considerably faster, and the gap is about to widen even more: Early in 2008, Microsoft is planning to release Service Pack 3 for XP, and I have heard that SP3 will, for example, make XP running MS Word 10% faster than XP with Service Pack 2, widening the speed gap considerably. (I'm not sure what the speed comparison would be when running Amiga emulations.)

Vista may or may not be a complete turkey as some claim--I suspect it will take a couple of service packs to know for sure--but there seems to be no compelling reason to upgrade to Vista on an existing computer unless you are both (1) a hard-core gamer who frequently upgrades or a high-end graphics user and (2) you have a Direct X-10 compatible graphics card (or cards) in your system. Getting a new computer with Vista would seem okay, as long as you don't get Vista Home Basic and get either Home Premium or Ultimate.

In issuing Service Pack 3 for XP, Microsoft is clearly on the defensive. It's nice to see them at least somewhat on the defensive for a change.

 

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Re: Windows Vista Premium
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2007, 08:34:53 PM »
Hi,

I am an IT for many years with many experiences in windows operating system.
I usually install the latest windows version just as it is available but for the first time it's different.
I tried some alpha & beta versions of Vista (longhorn) and i installed the retail version for months, I had many problems.

First my hardware configuration: Pentium 4 3.4Ghz, 2GB dual channel DDR400, Nvidia 7900GS , 200Gb HDD, gigabit ethernet., Audigy 2. (Dual boot XP-Vista)

Not the latest available hardware but a reasonable machine.

I have the following problems:

- The display speed: I turned off themes to keep system responsive.

- many bugs:

- The time used to copy files is 3 or 4 times longer than with the same files on the same machine under XP

- Turned off those boxes who want the administrator password nearly each mouse click.

- Windows update: some updates do not install for weeks without any reason.

- I have a bluetooth adapter: works under XP , worked under vista without any driver but for months each time I start the computer Vista demands the driver 4 or 5 times and do not found anyone suitable, Why ??...

- many others ...

But no compatibility problems (software, even CD emulators with fake drives) ...

I do not think that Vista have a real interest now maybe in 1 or 2 years...

I think that the first service pack will solve many problems but for now, not very useable...
 

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Re: Windows Vista Premium
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2007, 08:36:26 PM »
I bought a new Dell Desktop with 3GB Ram and Dual Core 2.13GHz and GeForce 8600GT. It came with WVP and I decideed to try it and see. I bought about 3 months ago and I still have Vista on it. It has a smoother feel that I prefer over XPs herky jerky. I havent had any games not work on it or productivity software. The way Vista handles ram is different than XP so haveing it all 'full' is not an error or bug. So far so good. If I went back I would use TinyXP anyway.
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