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The Best Amiga Computer Is An A3000?
« on: November 26, 2007, 11:48:55 PM »
I had always been under the assumption that the A4000 was the crown jewel of the Amiga line of computers.  I was including the 4000D and 4000T together in this category.  A person I met recently told me this wasn't true.  He said that the A3000 was actually the best computer Amiga had made.  Is there any truth in this?  If so, what are the reasons.  I have heard Gloomy's babble about the A2000 and had always just considered the source but this A3000 talk was new to me.  Any opinions and reasons one way or the other would be appreciated as I have an opportunity to pick up an A3000 and wondered if I should.  I already have an A4000 so it isn't a matter of making a choice.   Thanks for any help that may be forthcoming.   Dan :-?
 

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Re: The Best Amiga Computer Is An A3000?
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2007, 11:57:06 PM »
 The A3000T is the best Amiga ever!

 Ok, it lacks the AGA chipset, but have an internal, native, fully functional scandoubler/flickerfixer.

 Plus it have SCSI.

 The tower have room to toss anything you want inside.

 And it's compatible with almost all cards even made for the A4000.

 Did I forget something?

--EDIT--
 D'oh! The A3000 (T) never have IDE on board.
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Re: The Best Amiga Computer Is An A3000?
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2007, 12:00:17 AM »
The A3000 I have a chance to get is not a tower but the desktop model.  I should have mentioned this.   Dan
 

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Re: The Best Amiga Computer Is An A3000?
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2007, 12:01:00 AM »
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 The A3000T is the best Amiga ever!

 Ok, it lacks the AGA chipset, but have an internal, native, fully functional scandoubler/flickerfixer.

 Plus it have IDE and SCSI.

 The tower have room to toss anything you want inside.

 And it's compatible with almost all cards even made for the A4000.

 Did I forget something?


Well, I have seen an A3000T with the AGA chipset and the DSP card (very rare!).
 

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Re: The Best Amiga Computer Is An A3000?
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2007, 12:01:55 AM »
i would say the 4000T is the best amiga...

it have the AGA chipset, a fully functional scandoubler/flickerfixer card.

Plus it have IDE and SCSI, 3.5hd floppy, cdrom....

The tower have room to toss anything you want inside.

it's compatible with almost all cards made for the A3000.

and it dont weight a ton like the a3000t does :lol:
 

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Re: The Best Amiga Computer Is An A3000?
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2007, 12:08:45 AM »
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Did I forget something?


It's too big.

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To OP: I'd say that the A3000D is prolly best overall. It has a lot of functionality straight out of the box.
 

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Re: The Best Amiga Computer Is An A3000?
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2007, 12:13:38 AM »
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i would say the 4000T is the best amiga...

it have the AGA chipset, a fully functional scandoubler/flickerfixer card.

Plus it have IDE and SCSI, 3.5hd floppy, cdrom....

The tower have room to toss anything you want inside.

it's compatible with almost all cards made for the A3000.

and it dont weight a ton like the a3000t does :lol:


 Where? Only the A3000 have an internal scandoubler (Amber). In the 4k systems you need to bought an 3rd part one.
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Re: The Best Amiga Computer Is An A3000?
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2007, 12:16:27 AM »
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i would say the 4000T is the best amiga...

it have the AGA chipset, a fully functional scandoubler/flickerfixer card.


 Where? Only the A3000 have an internal scandoubler (Amber). In the 4k systems you need to bought an 3rd part one.


Yes, but that's the only thing it is missing.

Picasso 4 card changes all that though. Plus, it's not quite as big as the 3000T.
 

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Re: The Best Amiga Computer Is An A3000?
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2007, 12:40:47 AM »
Depends on what u want it for really..

If u wana play games, then the A4000 is probably your best bet as it has AGA..

For productivity I think an A3000 or A3000T is probably better... (T prefered)

The A3000 has a much sturdier construction.. The A4000 case is pretty flimsy! The A3000T though has an ultra sturdy case and HUGE expandability space and ventilaton...

My personal choice is the 3000T (That's what I'm gunna be running OS4 on anyway!)
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Re: The Best Amiga Computer Is An A3000?
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2007, 02:07:00 AM »
I'll put my 2 cents in, the 3000 Tower motherboard has sockets which aid in replacement of chips faster and less pain.  Dam you to hell CIA chips.  The other great thing is I have one; serial number 175

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Re: The Best Amiga Computer Is An A3000?
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2007, 05:04:16 AM »
So far as basic machine without expensive addons are concerned, I'd agree that the A3000 is best choice.  According to some information I ran across earlier today, the A4000 was actually a prototype for an intended A3000 Plus computer that never got fully developed because of Commodore's business difficulties.  As released, the A4000 was not considered by most product reviewers to be superior to the A3000, excepting for inclusion of the AGA chipset and ability to use 64-pin RAM sticks.  So far as this point in time, three of three A3000s I've purchased are working just fine....after two attempts, I still don't have a properly running A4000.  And, other things considered, I'd say that lack of socketed chips makes the A4000 a poor choice for keeping it alive in the geriatric ward of computerdom.
 

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Re: The Best Amiga Computer Is An A3000?
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2007, 06:51:08 AM »
I would say the A4000T is the best Amiga, and their rare (only 5000 made). The Amiga 3000 is cool but it won't even do the realtime color effects on the Video Toaster 4000.
 

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Re: The Best Amiga Computer Is An A3000?
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2007, 07:32:37 AM »
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 The A3000T is the best Amiga ever!

 Plus it have IDE and SCSI.


The A3000T has no IDE.

Imho the best machine is an A3000+ (A3k with AGA+DSP, could use more slots though) or an A4000T (the only thing it misses is a flicker fixer).
 

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Re: The Best Amiga Computer Is An A3000?
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2007, 07:33:42 AM »
Apart from all the functional reasons that are summed up above this post, there is one more reason why the A3000 is better than the A4000:

It's pretty!

The A4000 is just an altered Commodore PC desktop case, while the A3000 is a design of it's own.
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Re: The Best Amiga Computer Is An A3000?
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2007, 07:35:00 AM »
The A3000(T) is nice and stable hardware wise, but both the desktop and the tower are not mechanically very nice for expansions.

There's no room for anything in the desktop, even though it looks nice.

I'm considering relocating my A3000T into a generic ATX fulltower case, just because the original tower's construction sucks so bad. (vertical drive bracket, drive rails, millions of screws that need to be in to keep the system rigid, otherwise everything falls apart constantly)

Sure, it's sturdy, but that's the only positive feature about it.

Yet still I regard the A3000T as the best Amiga commodore ever mass produced. The A4000T is probably the second..