does OS4 carry a decent browser?

[CHR74]

I would like to try the new 0s4 for classic amiga.. to do so I need to locate an A1200 + ppc on ebay.. anyway before buying I need to know if I will be able to browse the internet with all the blings blings of modern browsers..

[alexh]

No.

[CHR74]

ok. So what will I use it for?

[cv643d]

Dial a BBS?  :-)

[VooDoo]

IBrowse 2.4 or AWeb... I perfer IB!!! :-D

[Framiga]

and probably Sputnik also "soon"! :-)

[downix]

CHR74 wrote:
ok. So what will I use it for?

Not much.  The most modern web app for OS 4 is a decade old in standards support.  You could go for photo editing (ImageFX) or 3D work (Alladn4D) tho.

[CHR74]

idea.. do you know the laptop.org project? There are side projects involving the use of old hardware for anti digital divide purposes.. Shouldn't it be a good thing to  develope a browser based on mozilla for os4 or even older releases and try to pass the old amiga hardware as anti digital divide solution for the poor countries as a cheap solution? I mean.. even with an old p200 and w98 I can browse the internet almost flawlessly.. The governments pour millions of dollars in these anti digital divide projects for the poor.. Amiga could be a competitor and the installed base would magically start to grow again.

[DonnyEMU]

I am going to ask a question here being a web developer, and this one bugs me every time I hear someone talk about aweb or ibrowse.

I know a little about HTML, CSS, and other things like this. Considering that none of these browsers are ever up to standards, especially Javascript.

Why no one here mentions VaporWare and the Voyager web browser, which while OLD still seems to support standards better than the other two browsers that people are mentioning. It works great under emulation and seems to support Javascript, SSL, Flash (very old but it works) and has available most datatypes..

I'd love to hear some discussion about why people don't recommend it and what exactly are the problems with it. It seems to support web standards (up to about IE 4/Netscape4) better than these other two that are still in development.  Online registration for the product has stopped but it's a great product and an example of a product the community seems to have turned their back on. I'd check it out..

http://www.vapor.com/voyager/

I keep hearing BS (bologna sandwich) answers from the community about this, but I think this is still further along than the others including the OS4 products. Most people who were initially putting down voyager were upset that the browser was part of MorphOS too. If that's true, in my humble opinion they chose the better browser for their OS, and the complaints I heard weren't real ones but red vs blue banter.

Personally I am excited that webkit (the technology behind Safari and Konquerer browsers) is getting ported to AROS. That's the only hope for the entire platform these days.

http://cataclysm.cx/

http://arosshow.blogspot.com/2007/11/robert-norris-web-browser-interview.html

[Colani1200]

CHR74 wrote:
try to pass the old amiga hardware as anti digital divide solution for the poor countries as a cheap solution?

You haven't looked at the prices for Amiga hardware recently, have you? Or are you just trolling?  :-?

[downix]

CHR74 wrote:
idea.. do you know the laptop.org project? There are side projects involving the use of old hardware for anti digital divide purposes.. Shouldn't it be a good thing to  develope a browser based on mozilla for os4 or even older releases and try to pass the old amiga hardware as anti digital divide solution for the poor countries as a cheap solution? I mean.. even with an old p200 and w98 I can browse the internet almost flawlessly.. The governments pour millions of dollars in these anti digital divide projects for the poor.. Amiga could be a competitor and the installed base would magically start to grow again.

I've made these arguements for over 5 years, as my former co-workers can attest.  The problem a) none of the corporate guys will fund such a project and b) none in the remaining community have the skill for such a port.

Simply, all that is needed is to take the core mozilla rendering engine, gecko, and make that a loadable library.  Then all of the existing amiga browsers could utilize it if coded right.

[Framiga]

@DonnyEMU

why not Voyager?

1- is a discontinued commercial product (read defunct)

2- it is not superior than IB2.4

even the MOS native version is used only by few and only because is bundled with MOS 1.4.x

Sorry but the way is elsewhere ;-)

[alexh]

CHR74 wrote:
ok. So what will I use it for?

Exactly

[humppa]

CHR74 wrote:
ok. So what will I use it for?

You could take some screenshots and upload them to the image gallery on Amigans.net.

[CHR74]

I bet there are many many old amigas buried in attics and so on.. an anti digital divide campaign from any government would led such antiques to get to see the light again.. consequent price drop and the likes

Colani1200 wrote:

CHR74 wrote:
try to pass the old amiga hardware as anti digital divide solution for the poor countries as a cheap solution?

You haven't looked at the prices for Amiga hardware recently, have you? Or are you just trolling?  :-?