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Which OS are the worst and the best?
« on: July 14, 2003, 09:06:25 AM »
The worst OSes I ever used are:

Windows XP Pro with Service Pack 1:

Sometimes it gives strange errors in memory and some CD's cannot be read. If I run Win98, it doesn't give this promblems with CD's

The second OS I hate is Window Me:

There is problems with Windows media player and strange lockups.

The best OSes are:

Workbench 3.0, 3.1, 3.5 and 3.9
Linux
Risc OS
Win 98 amd win 2000

Which OS do you like and hate?
 

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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2003, 09:43:10 AM »
XP isn't the worst OS I've used.  Win2K is my favorite, followed by OS 3.0 (relative to when it was released, of course).  I'm also quite partial to OS/2, that is, V2.0, which is driven mostly with text-rendered user interfaces.  I love a good TUI.  I haven't tried OS/2 Warp, but I would like to, just for inspiration.  :-)

Win98 was too flakey to be "better" than Win2K.  Just last week, I emptied the Recycle Bin on my legacy computer, and now I have hundreds of cross-linked files on my hard drive and all sorts of other filesystem nastiness.  That box also crashed on me about 4-5 times a week.  I don't think I'll bother re-installing it.  I only really play DOS games on it, anyway.  Anything before Win2K is junk.  ;-)

Any Unix-ish OS is obsolete for my tastes.  Typing is what you do when writing scripts or your video drivers are corrupt.  Otherwise, give me Directory Commander, any day!  Gnome also drives me nuts.  What ever happened to TUI's?

I also liked DOS, believe it or not.  It might be braindead, but It's so simple, there's really nothing you can do to permanently mess up the system.  DOS was a good gaming platform, at least.

The worst OS I'm familiar with has to be NT4.  It's not as stable as Windows fans want you to believe, it allows drivers and apps to do all sorts of stupid stuff to the system, corrupted installations with NTFS have to be wiped out, as there's no way to access a partition from DOS without 3rd party tools, and driver organization is horrible.  I'll never understand why 85% of drivers can be installed as "devices" and "services", but specialized drivers, like video and hard drive controllers, have their own control panels.  IDE drives are also labeled as SCSI devices.  In fact, even parallel port card readers are labeled as SCSI devices!   :-?

Second worst is just about any old version of MacOS.  Slowest OS's in the world, and loaded with bugs.  I ran into a problem when I installed MacOS 8.0 from scratch on nine identical Power Macs.  On *FOUR* machines, the CD-ROM never showed up unless you boot from the drive, and trying to play an audio CD locked up the machine.  The other five Macs worked fine (relatively speaking).  Every Mac person I talked to told me it was a hardware problem.

Installing the OS 8.1 patch fixed the CD-ROMs.  Still, our Quark Express CD's didn't show up when you put them in the drive, while all other CD's worked fine.  I had to use some trickery with unfolded paper clips to install Quark.  Ugh.  And of course, they crashed, like, ten times a day.  It burns me up when fanatics tell me their Macs never crash, and they are soooo easy-to-use.  Mixing and matching hundreds of system extensions, trying to find the "bad" one, is not what I call easy-to-use!  But hey, who cares now that OS X is available?

That's not to say I just hate Macs.  I really hate just about everything.   ;-)
 

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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2003, 09:45:10 AM »
The all time crappest OS I've ever used award goes to: Windows ME. Truly dire.

Second crappest: Atari TOS. (note that Atari users agree and have replaced it with various improved systems ;)

Oh, and I disagree about Linux being one of the best. TBH, I think its a miracle it works at all its such a mess. (and no, fancy GUIs to abstract the user from the mess only addresses the symptom, not the problem :-D ).
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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2003, 09:54:09 AM »
Worst:
1. Any AmigaOS with WarpOS installed.
2. Windows ME (does anyone out there like this OS?)
3. Windows XP with all of the eyecandy turned on

Best:
1. FreeBSD/Gentoo Linux with Gnome 2.2.
2. C64 Basic (C'mon, it was an OS that *never* got in your way)
3. Windows 2000.

Now if this question was asked ten years ago, it would've been AmigaOS all of the way .. but in the past ten years there has been no *major* OS development, and the minor updates that there has been has been simply to copy MacOS and Windows..
 

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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2003, 10:15:17 AM »
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Sometimes it gives strange errors in memory and some CD's cannot be read. If I run Win98, it doesn't give this promblems with CD's

I didn't have this problem with
- WinXP-Pro-SP1**
- Win2K3 Server.

**1st PC was fitted with LG DVD/CD-RW, nForce II 400 Ultra class chipset/AthlonXP, Geforce TI VIVO, Sound Storm APU, 512MB DDR SDRAM, Dual 100Mbit NICs, 80Gb+40Gb+20Gb 7200rpm HDs (UDMA133).

2nd X86 PC was fitted with SBlive5.1DE (with Audigy 2 drivers), Geforce 2, Sony CD-RW, Samsung 16X-DVD-ROM, 40Gb+20Gb 7200RPM HDs (UDMA100). , 512MB SDRAM, 100Mbit Realtek NIC, VIA KTxxx class chipset/Athlon (TBird)@1.33Ghz. Dual boot with Win2K3 and WinXP.

3rd X86 PC was fitted with SBlive-Value, nVidia TNT2, Imitation 32X/24X/16X CD-RW, 8Gb 5200RPM HD(UDMA33), Celeron @500Mhz, Intel ZX440, 192Mb SDRAM, 10Mbit NIC.  

OS that I like
1. MacOS X (pretty GUI).
2. AmigaOS 3.9 (modified for my liking).
3. Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition (X86-32)(near brain dead server maintenance).
4. Windows XP Pro – SP1 (X86-32) (leisure and general office usage) (with Silver XP theme).
5. Mandrake Linux 9.1 (X86-32) (nice cheap Linux distro).

Amiga 1200 PiStorm32-Emu68-RPI 4B 4GB.
Ryzen 9 7900X, DDR5-6000 64 GB, RTX 4080 16 GB PC.
 

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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2003, 10:17:28 AM »
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jamesm wrote:
2. C64 Basic (C'mon, it was an OS that *never* got in your way)


If you're going to include BASIC ROMs that shipped with 8 bit computers, C64 BASIC is RIGHT at the bottom of the pile (and believe me, I am a true Commodore fan, I own 3 C64s, a VIC-20, a PET, and some others). BBC BASIC just totally wipes the floor with any other BASIC of that era.

I mean lets do a comparison:

C64 BASIC pros:

1) Extensible (at the cost of RAM or a cart slot)
2) Errr.... it works

C64 BASIC cons:

1) No graphics or sound commands. You have to POKE the hardware directly
2) Woefully small command set
3) Slooooooow


BBC BASIC [and DOS] pros (compared to C64 BASIC):

1) Structure (procedures, local variables etc.)
2) Inline assembler
3) Comprehensive sound and graphics command set
4) Relatively fast for a BASIC of its type
5) Inbuilt methods for changing character set, "special" key behaviour etc.
6) Automatic line enumeration, and renumbering


BBC BASIC cons (compared to C64 BASIC):

1) errr... ummm.... :-)

I will admit that the C64 had vastly superior hardware to the BBC (in terms of graphics and sound; the BBC was more easily expandable), but we're discussing the OS here..
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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2003, 10:29:19 AM »
Worst:

1) Windows ME (nothing comes even close in instability)
2) Neutrino (many years ago, surely changed since that)
3) Windows 3 (could there be anything MORE ugly?)

Best:
1) AmigaOS (after getting a turbo- and gfxcard)
2) MorphOS (fast and corgeous looking, contender for #1 spot)
3) MacOS (works like a dream)
 

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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2003, 10:49:27 AM »
Worst I've used: Windows ME, old MacOS versions

Best: C128 Basic...it's what the C64 Basic
should have been all along (gfx/sound commands
etc)...:P..:)

 

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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2003, 11:49:26 AM »
Windows 98/98se is the worst os imo.

My OS of choice at the moment is XP Pro no service pack "Sp1 made XP buggy for me".

My favorite is AmigaOS.
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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2003, 11:56:13 AM »
WOrst: WINDOWS 95 / Me /3.11  , ATARI TOS

best: amigaos3.1 , 3.9bb2 , win2000 (its quite good) ...

but i must add that i only use amigaos now...and will keep dooing that...


Whats up with all the hate!
 

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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2003, 12:39:36 PM »
Worst: DOS / Win 3.11, I just hate it... Single tasking, lousy memory management
Second Worst: Atari TOS, what a joke
Third Worst: Win 9x / ME, unstable, unreliable, needs to be reinstalled every 2 or 3 months, huge.

Best: AmigaOS 3.x, fast, nice to work with, easy, configurable.
Second Best: Mac OS X, easy to use, beautiful, overall a pleasant surprise.
Third Best: Debian GNU/Linux, so many possabilities, if you only have the time to configure everything the way you want it.
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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2003, 12:44:37 PM »
I agree, WinXp and Me really sucks!!!!

Win98 isn't terrible and my favorite is AmigaOS3.9 (i think OS4 will be the best). i also like BeOS very much.
 

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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2003, 12:47:51 PM »
Worst:
Windows 2000
Windows XP
Windows ME
Redhat Linux
OS2/Warp
MacOS 9.x or less

Best:
MorphOS
Mac OS X
AmigaOS3.9
Acorn RiscOS
 

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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2003, 12:54:20 PM »
the best os ... for what ?!

if i have to setup a network, the best choice is (imho)
solaris 9
linux
freebsd

the worst are (for networks)
windows (nt/2k/xp)
mac os classic
amiga os (and all other desktop os´es)

if i want to use the computer as a desktop system :

best are :

gnome/kde
amiga os (with diropus me)
mox
morphos
(even windows is not that bad for desktop reasons)

worst are

cde
win 3.x
amigaos <2.x
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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2003, 01:03:46 PM »
Best

Windows 2000 pro - best windows going
AmigaOS3.x - great to use

Worst

Windows 9x/ME- to unstable for serious work

AmigaOS 3.x - lacks so much serious software and can just bomb out with no protection anywhere.