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AmigaOne Lite ITX for AT PSU
« on: July 13, 2003, 05:34:19 PM »
Hello
I read about the new AmigaOne Lite with tiny ITX
form factor.
There are several thousands old PC-AT / Baby AT case
with 300W Power Supply (PC Power & Cooling) sold
at local auction.
Is it possible to create AmigaOne ITX boards that use PC AT
PSU and USB/Serial/Parallel connectors with cables?
If possible perhaps this board can be used to upgrade
old PC AT /Baby AT system.
Is this possible?
 

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Re: AmigaOne Lite ITX for AT PSU
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2003, 05:46:34 PM »
1. The Mini-A1 does not exist, and won't exist for quite a while.

2. It will be mATX not ITX.

3. Why should someone trying to update his 10 year old PC go for an A1 ?

4. Why should he keep that old case, when a new ATX one can be had for a few $ ?
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: AmigaOne Lite ITX for AT PSU
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2003, 06:03:12 PM »
1. 3. and 4. are IMO subjective and so I won't argue about them.

But I'm afraid you're wrong on number 2. the A1-lite is
suposed to be a mini-ITX form factor.

It's the A1 (rev 2) that is planned to be a micro-ATX formfactor board.
 

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Re: AmigaOne Lite ITX for AT PSU
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2003, 07:20:27 PM »
Replace the AT PSU with an ATX and an ATX power button.
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Re: AmigaOne Lite ITX for AT PSU
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2003, 07:34:24 PM »
1: wrong
2: wrong, it's double eurocard, as per the slide here: http://paula.tidstrand.com/amigbg_slides/09.jpg. The mATX AmigaOne (http://paula.tidstrand.com/amigbg_slides/08.jpg) is mATX
3: why would he not? Who says someone who has a really old PC won't go for a mini AmigaOne? I have a really old PC, and I bought an AmigaOne ;-)
4: I kinda agree. There's all kinds of cool modern cases you can get for next to nothing, so don't bother converting an old AT case...
 

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Re: AmigaOne Lite ITX for AT PSU
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2003, 07:48:20 PM »
@Olegil:

About (1) - do you mean "wrong" as in "wrong, it does exist" or "wrong, it will exist soon"?

Do you know if the micro-A1 will also be in the $800 range, or cheaper?  a micro-atx A1 with a $300-$400 price tag would definitely kick ass...
 

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Re: AmigaOne Lite ITX for AT PSU
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2003, 07:52:14 PM »
@olegil

1. So, 2 slides are enough to proof existance ?
Thought we had learned better by Escena_A1, BoXeR, P5-G3/4 ......

All these existed in more than slides. the BoXeR even worked, but none ever came into existance
(you know, really available for Joe-beer-belly).

If the schematics are all they have on the mATX,  I would guess it's gone take atleast another year
before they have something ready for sale (again, long experience in this "market").

The ITX one is in an even earlier state of being just a bit more than an idea. So I stand by my
initial statement.

2. Well o.k. I didn't know they had two seperate plans.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: AmigaOne Lite ITX for AT PSU
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2003, 08:13:31 PM »
@Kronos:

1: no, but according to a person I know (and trust) it's really not that far off. Remember when I told you the XE was working back in September 2002 and would ship before Christmas? Well, it was, and it would have, except it got a teensy bit delayed.

2: You obviously didn't bother to check facts before replying, then. Which goes to show you're not really concerned with facts if you can throw dirt at the AmigaOne. Please at least TRY to give the right answers, eh?
 

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Re: AmigaOne Lite ITX for AT PSU
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2003, 08:25:13 PM »
@Olegil

1. So what ? That doesn't make it an more real. And you have told alot of stuff about the A1-XE being
ready right now, but it is a fact that it only started shipping in real numbers well into 2003.
Lot of excuses were given, but none was really convicing.

2. Throw dirt ? Hows that when I only pointed the obvious flaws in Asian's post ?

It does not exist, simple.
As long as I don't see a working proto it's not real.
As long as I can't buy it does not exist (in an enduser-version).

It's really hard to believe that after all the vapour producs, and exciting (tm) announcemts
made from all sides over the years, we still have people taken them for face-value ....
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: AmigaOne Lite ITX for AT PSU
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2003, 08:39:16 PM »
Olegil, comunicate with Kronos is impossbile.
 

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Re: AmigaOne Lite ITX for AT PSU
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2003, 09:00:31 PM »
i hope the ITX board will be priced nicely (half the price of the a1 XE maybe? ) ..if it does then i know alot of theese baby's will be sold.

anyway whats the fuzz about? its ITX and its small and its nothing for kronos anyway :)

btw ,welcome back ole egil! (from yer vacation)

cheers
Whats up with all the hate!
 

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Re: AmigaOne Lite ITX for AT PSU
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2003, 09:06:32 PM »
I'd like to see a version with an horizontal CPU slot. Kinda like the A1200.

Hey, someone could do A1200 like transparent cases, and put the mobos in there. Cool!!! :-D
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Re: AmigaOne Lite ITX for AT PSU
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2003, 09:45:33 PM »
Olegil: I think we both know that there can well be years from erly specs (and prototype component placements) to real product. But If they'll happen soon and be resonably priced (less than 1/2 of cheapest Aone) It'll be interesting product.

 

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Re: AmigaOne Lite ITX for AT PSU
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2003, 09:48:14 PM »
johannak:only one thing i fear...that is... size normally means money... the smaller the more expensive. i hope that doesnt apply for the a1 lite.. (because of the market anyway)
Whats up with all the hate!
 

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Re: AmigaOne Lite ITX for AT PSU
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2003, 10:01:08 PM »
Well details about the Teron mPX can be found here. Not really news.