Amiga, Inc. (Washington) changes name

[skurk]

Amino?!?  That's not even a catchy name, what's going on?

The first thing that strikes me is amino acids, the building blocks in proteins.

Dunno if that's a positive association, though.

[downix]

skurk wrote:
Amino?!?  That's not even a catchy name, what's going on?

The first thing that strikes me is amino acids, the building blocks in proteins.

Dunno if that's a positive association, though.

It was their legal name before they bought the rights to the Amiga IP.  If they sell off or get rid of that right, they would be forced to change their name back.

[dammy]

I thought Amiga, Inc. (Washington) was disolved. How can you rename a dead company?

That was because the corp did not file (read pay a yearly fee) a report to WA State which then desolved the corp.  WA allows for five years to reactivate (read pay fees) a desolved corp.

I see this as a method to shut down Hyperion's legal claim that it was insolvent.  If Hyperion does succeed in saying the IP does not belong to Amiga DE, it'll go back to Amino Dev which will then terminate the contract with Hyperion.  Checkmate.

Dammy

[Colin_Camper]

does not belong to Amiga DE

Is that Amiga Digital Environment or Amiga Deleware?  :-)

Still, at least it keeps us entertained.

[billt]

"Amiga, Inc." (UBI Number 601 983 734) has just been renamed "Amino Development Corporation":

To be fair, where does this indicate a change of name or any other status? It just looks like a business license, which began in 1999. I don't remember when they took on the Amiga name, perhaps this is there just because that's the name they originally applied for license under? What's interesting is that they do not have any address info present there.

[Doobrey]

downix wrote:
It was their legal name before they bought the rights to the Amiga IP.  If they sell off or get rid of that right, they would be forced to change their name back.

Didn't that leaked fax that detailed the Amiga Inc/KMOS deal say something about making Amiga (WA) change its name ?

[Jose]

"If Hyperion does succeed in saying the IP does not belong to Amiga DE, it'll go back to Amino Dev which will then terminate the contract with Hyperion. Checkmate."

Insolvency and filling for insolvency are two different things. So yes, checkmate, but for Hyperion;)

[dammy]

Insolvency and filling for insolvency are two different things. So yes, checkmate, but for Hyperion;)

Unfortunetly for Hyprion, AI/Amino was never insolvent.  Their assets were far beyond their debts.  Refer to US Code on what is required for insovlency.

Dammy

[Jose]

@dammy

That's news to me, TBH I haven't had the patience to follow the case like others... Is that proven 100%?! That means the death of AOS4 for plenty of us, I won't be investing in something with AInc. behind it!

[Kronos]

We might all know that Amino was insolvent eversince 2001 (even before Hyperion signed that contract), we might even say that is bloddy obvious...... proofing that is so, is another pair of shoes.

And by doing so, one might wake up the autorities, Amino is forced into filling insolvency, and the contract gets voided as it harms the interest of creditos ranking far higher than Hyperion (read those have verdict against Amino in their hands).

Very dangerous game to play.

[jorkany]

Jose,

That means the death of AOS4 for plenty of us,

I agree with this, as if AInc. secures rights to OS I have no doubt they will put it aside and it will never be heard of again.

I won't be investing in something with AInc. behind it!

This part I don't understand. If it's determined that AInc. is in the right, then Hyperion has been in the wrong all along. In that case, were I interested in the well-being of OS4, I would be pissed at Hyperion.

FYI, I have no love of either party, both have misled the Amiga community for years, but if you consider OS4 to be teh TRUE Amiga then I don't understand what difference it makes who owns the rights to slap the name "Amiga" on it.

[leirbag28]

@jorkany

Well said............I agree with you.  However just cuz one party wins doesn't mean they were in the right...........they just might have had a better decieving lawyer.

Nevertheless, I am behind Amiga all the way (OS and the hardware)

Seriously............we need to stop attacking Amiga Inc and Hyperion.

[Jose]

The only thing I can remember that could serve as proof was already submited to the court, i.e. the fact that Bill testified in another court case, about AI not paying their employees, because the company was completely broke. And I don't think the employees got any money back. IMHO if that's not accepted as proof than the US justice is real sh*t!.


@jorkany
"...but if you consider OS4 to be teh TRUE Amiga then I don't understand what difference it makes who owns the rights to slap the name "Amiga" on it."

Regarding the "TRUE Amiga", I've learned with time that the MOS community is very much like the AOS4 one, at least now, and as far as product is concerned my only pity is that I don't have a PPC card otherwise I'd surely install AOS3.9, AOS4 and MOS.

Regarding AInc. ...
Anyone that has followed the Amiga history since 99 knows they've only used the "name" to get funds from investors, and they're only interest in the real Amiga stuff was getting developers for free.
If they get AOS4 they'll pretty fast turn it into some x86 run anywhere crap and change the API to force coders to use it.

Last note about morality: I consider playing dirt tactics regarding software not as bad as not paying your employees, so still prefer Hyperion.

[dammy]

The only thing I can remember that could serve as proof was already submited to the court, i.e. the fact that Bill testified in another court case, about AI not paying their employees, because the company was completely broke. And I don't think the employees got any money back. IMHO if that's not accepted as proof than the US justice is real sh*t!.

Except your confusing what McBill says with real world evidence.  :lol:  Ignore McBill and pay attention to the paperwork, that is going to lead you to the truth.

Dammy

[AmigaHeretic]

Looks like there is already a Pocket PC shell game I guess we don't need an Amiga Anywhere port.

[Argo]

Unfortunetly for Hyprion, AI/Amino was never insolvent. Their assets were far beyond their debts. Refer to US Code on what is required for insovlency.

Yet, they were unable to pay their debts even after selling their assets. Or would that be unwilling to pay debts?