Hyperion AmiWest Announcement

[Flashlab]

@ACK_h8r

I agree that Hyperion isn't as holy as some people think but at least they know what they're doing. For them it's about business not charity. If they had it their way we would have OS4 today on new hardware. AInc wasn't interested in OS4 until their AmigaAnywhere failed miserably.

It is also true that the hostage of OS4 of Hyperion was/is bad for the community. AInc doesn't produce anything but Hyperion does and that's why I welcome their effort.

In the end you have to choose between two evils if you want any new Amiga solution.

[motorollin]

Now watch the price of PPC cards go up even more...

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moto

[Flashlab]

Glad I already have one ;-)!

[motorollin]

Wish I had one - but it would probably cost more than my whole A4000 :-(

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moto

[jorkany]

weirdami,

Does anyone remember what the reason was that classic OS4 wasn't allowed to come out before now?

Because Hyperion decided to put all their eggs in the AmigaOne basket. Originally Hyperion had said they planned to come out with the classic version before the AmigaOne version, but sometime around 2003 they changed their mind and shelved the classic version. Several times afterwards they stated that there was no way to profit from supporting the classic users anyway, so the classic version sat on the backburner.

[jorkany]

Even so, what have AInc done then?

At least Hyperion developed something...

Ever heard the phrase "there are worse things than death"? Amiga (not the company but the computer, it's reputation, and it's legacy) suffer at the hands of both AInc. and Hyperion.

I agree that Hyperion isn't as holy as some people think but at least they know what they're doing. For them it's about business not charity.

You've got that completely backwards. How much money do you think Hyperion has made off of OS4 these past six years? Hyperion has made it clear that they wasted a lot of money on OS4 development, and meantime they dropped their game rehashing business to focus primarily on OS4. I don't know what school of finance you subscribe to, but six years in the red isn't an indication that they know what they are doing business-wise.

OS4, provided it ever does ship, *is* charity - for those who want OS4 anyway.

[Quixote]

:-( My own Cyberstorm III equipped A4000 died on me a couple of years ago, so I really can't use this now.  Still, it's a welcome announcement.  Perhaps other long-awaited events will occur soon, too.

Well, I'll likely get it anyway, just in case.

[Plaz]

was that classic OS4 wasn't allowed to come out before now?

One of the Hyperion devs (Rouge I think) had said way back when in a thread that classic was low priority to completing OS4 for A1. If they could have seen the future with no PPC hardware, maybe their priority would have been different. Once OS4 was 'final', they got to work on classic. I don't think there was any restriction to the classic version other than available time.

Plaz

[number6]

@all

Please see post #38 and the following thread in general for Amiwest information:
here.

Presentation of OS4 classic today.
Links to Amiwest audio files from last night.
etc.

#6

[dammy]

One of the Hyperion devs (Rouge I think) had said way back when in a thread that classic was low priority to completing OS4 for A1. If they could have seen the future with no PPC hardware, maybe their priority would have been different. Once OS4 was 'final', they got to work on classic. I don't think there was any restriction to the classic version other than available time.

Guess they are running low on cash for lawyers.  Or they just want to make as much as they can in case they lose the law suit.

Dammy

[redfox]

AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30

Thanks Hyperion. :pint:

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redfox

[Plaz]

Hyperion deserve no support and it is amazing how people are cheering them on when THEY are the ones who have delayed OS4 for years

Plenty of blame to go around. I see one huge reason for the delay being the lack of A1 boards available. Who's to blame for not licencing more manufactures? OS4 has been available in beta for years, but many of us had no where to run it to help spur it's progress. Go lay some of your blame at Amiga Inc's doorstep if you're going to be fair. Because THEY are just if not more guilty for the mess.

Many here are trying not to pick sides, they're just happy to see OS4 moving some where, some how.

Plaz

[Flashlab]

@jorkany

I could have expected the blue team would pop up. Some nice insulting insinuations in the text about my supposed education level too.

Anyway I will reply with a normal tone.

Point one: The worse than death thingy.

The difference here is choice. If you think the Amiga is suffering a fate worse than death you have the choice to ignore it. You can go PC/MOS/Mac whatever... It's not you that Hyperion and AInc are fighting over. So if you're suffering over all this you are doing so by your own choice. And my guess is that you are because you're eager enough to post about this on forums while you neither support AInc nor Hyperion. If you like MOS go on support that; no need to tell other people they can't welcome the work Hyperion has done.

Point two: The financial choice of Hyperion

It's true that Hyperion hasn't made much money on OS4. You think they planned it that way? Sounds to me like that they want to make money and sell it with new hardware. That didn't happen; we all know why. When they started the development they didn't know this situation would happen. Giving it all up now; that would be charity! They are protecting their investment in the (maybe idle) hope that in the end they may make money from it.

So please think before you post; we don't need cheap flamewars with insulting comments like on Amigaworld. I read some nice examples there with your name on them...

[Akiko]

@ACK_h8r

Hyperion deserve no support and it is amazing how people are cheering them on when THEY are the ones who have delayed OS4 for years

Is this user name used almost exclusively for trolling? When you aren't Glittering or ACK_h8r who are you normally?  

[Plaz]

Guess they are running low on cash for lawyers. Or they just want to make as much as they can in case they lose the law suit.

Perhaps, but I don't see it making a lot of money. How many copies to sell... a couple thousand? And don't they have to pay Amiga Inc a cut on each sale? So they'd be funding the enemy too.

There would seem to be some reasoning in paying Amiga Inc their cut... to prove to the judge they are good responsible license holders, and they deserve to keep it.

Plaz

[Kaminari]

> "OS4 Classic"

It was about time. I'm not even sure my Blizzard is still working, but I'm sure keeping my credit card ready for November 30th.