Hyperion AmiWest Announcement

[AJCopland]

You mean OS4 running on Cyberstorm and Blizzard PPC cards is actually about to become... a reailty :crazy:

Never thought I'd see the day.

Andy

[Darrin]

For the simple reason that new hardware should have been available and more sales would be likely for new hardware vs old.  It would be silly not to focus first on where you think the most sales will come from.

You mean like the Efika?

[dammy]

If new hardware comes out OS4 has to be adapted to support it. That's what AInc is blocking.

AI is blocking everything because they terminated Hyperion's contract last December.  Now it will be interesting to see what AI does about this announcement.  I have a feeling the moment Hyperion does begin to sell Amiga-PPC OS4, an emergency request for relief will be filed.  The Judge didn't do anything before since Hyperion didn't have any sales.  Now they will and this may force the Judge into a temporary ruling till the jury trial.

:popcorn:

Dammy

[nBit7]

AI is blocking everythign because they terminated Hyperion's contract last December. Now it will be interesting to see what AI does about this announcement. I have a feeling the moment Hyperion does begin to sell Amiga-PPC OS4, an emergency request for relief will be filed. The Judge didn't do anything before since Hyperion didn't have any sales. Now they will and this may force the Judge into a temporary ruling till the jury trial.

As I see it the failed injunction means that Ainc can't do anything (now) about Hyperion selling OS4 to any platform what so ever.  But If AInc (fully) WIN then they can go after money made from any sales.  But given that classic hardware was basically covered by the contract then I don't see AInc getting any money back out of this.  Though I must point out I know very little about law.

[Flashlab]

Yep that's going to be interesting. Buy OS4 the first day it's available or it's gone again!

[nBit7]

You mean like the Efika?

Both Efika and SAM are a licensing nightmare under the old contract.  Under the contract Amiga were to get 25 USD for every copy of OS4 with AmigaOne (2.03(B)).   The AmigaOne was targeted solely as an Amiga platform so the licence fee is easy too track.  The Efika and SAM are not targeted solely for the Amiga platform.  Thus any licence fee would be more difficult to track and prove.  This I think has much to do with why Amiga Inc are reluctant to licence these platforms.

[Darrin]

nBit7 wrote:

You mean like the Efika?

Both Efika and SAM are a licensing nightmare under the old contract.  Under the contract Amiga were to get 25 USD for every copy of OS4 with AmigaOne (2.03(B)).   The AmigaOne was targeted solely as an Amiga platform so the licence fee is easy too track.  The Efika and SAM are not targeted solely for the Amiga platform.  Thus any licence fee would be more difficult to track and prove.  This I think has much to do with why Amiga Inc are reluctant to licence these platforms.

That's interesting.  I guess the only real solution that Amiga Inc could see would be to put the whole $25 on the OS4 software, however overpricing the only piratable part of a "AmigaOne" system would encourage more people to download the OS illegally rather than buy it.

[nBit7]

That's interesting. I guess the only real solution that Amiga Inc could see would be to put the whole $25 on the OS4 software, however overpricing the only piratable part of a "AmigaOne" system would encourage more people to download the OS illegally rather than buy it.

The problem with AInc putting $25 on the software is again the contract in '2.03(A) Royalties'.
"Standalone version.  Other than for OS4.0 for which no royalties shall be due by Hyperion,  Hyperion shall pay Amiga for 20 USD for each standalone version of any subsequent version of OS4 developed by Hyperion pursuant to this Agreement"

In retrospect this was a bad decision by Amiga Inc. If they had forgot about hardware licence fee and went for a software licence fee only we would probably see OS4 on these alternative hardware platforms and no law suit.  On the other hand we would not have seen AmigaOnes.  As Eyetech would probably not have taken on the risk if they had compete with generic solutions.

[IOWASURFER]

Ah when the obese lady vocalizes I will believe!!!

[Tomas]

I hope this version just happens to run on Samantha as well..

[mingle]

"Wow, OS4 for classic Amigas!" - or so I thought...

I was all ready to dust off my trusty A1200, when I realised it's for classic Amigas with a PPC accelerator card! :-(

[ACK_h8r]

Hyperion deserve no support and it is amazing how people are cheering them on when THEY are the ones who have delayed OS4 for years, losing very important developers/users due to greed. If this does come out then hopefully one copy will be sold and the rest pirated.

Nice carrot dangling hyperion, this gem has got your faithful  sheep to return.

[Flashlab]

Even so, what have AInc done then?

At least Hyperion developed something...

[ACK_h8r]

Both are as bad as each other but with amiga inc people knew they are useless and untrustworthy but people belived in hyperion which then abused the situation by deliberately sitting on OS4, freezing progress due to them having hopes on getting their greedy filthy hands on owning the os.

Strange how people will blindly ignore that and make out amiga inc are scum while hyperion are the saviours.

[PPC]

Lucky me that i've got a ppc card  :lol:

Now i also read on amigaworld.net that OS4 for classic does support mediator boards for A1200/4000, now that my Z IV board is dead i'm going to replace it with a mediator SX.

[Flashlab]

@ACK_h8r

I agree that Hyperion isn't as holy as some people think but at least they know what they're doing. For them it's about business not charity. If they had it their way we would have OS4 today on new hardware. AInc wasn't interested in OS4 until their AmigaAnywhere failed miserably.

It is also true that the hostage of OS4 of Hyperion was/is bad for the community. AInc doesn't produce anything but Hyperion does and that's why I welcome their effort.

In the end you have to choose between two evils if you want any new Amiga solution.