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Re: Minimig VS softmod xbox
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2007, 12:54:03 PM »
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Talking of which has anyone got an action replay and a c opy of mechassault/spliter cell/underfire for the xbox they want to sell me please?


You dont have to buy anything to softmod. Do a hard drive hot swap.

 

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Re: Minimig VS softmod xbox
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2007, 01:42:20 PM »
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I just picked up a used Xbox, I'm looking forward to trying out AmigaSYS 3.
http://amigasys.extra.hu/eng/index.html


Be advised that the Worbench Installs like system 3 really need a graphics card EMU and 030/030 emulation to run smoooth...

On an xbox you'll be waiting for the icons to update quite a bit. AND the hires interlace screen flickers horribly, even on a HDTV screen, haven't figured out how to fix this.
I also have not seen an option for graphics card, flcker free video, on the XBOX version,

Recommend using 16 color WB, not 64 or 256 with copper backgrounds.

All in all the XBOX UAE experience is great, It runs original CD32 games too. The Media Center makes XBOX360 MCE look like a joke. I run the xbox 360 skin in 1080i, really great.

Can't wait to have BOTH on my LCD TV.
 

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Re: Minimig VS softmod xbox
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2007, 02:00:29 PM »
UPDATE:

We are working to get 2 functional units made, after that we have a quote to get 10 test units made up on the same production line that would make MORE Mini-Migs. The cost for such a low run comes out to about +/- $200 per unit plus shipping. These numbers come down with higher volume runs.


SEE THIS THREAD FOR DETAILS:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=31555
 

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Re: Minimig VS softmod xbox
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2007, 02:09:53 PM »
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You dont have to buy anything to softmod. Do a hard drive hot swap.


I know of this way of doing it. However I bought the Xbox used recently from Gamestation and you get a year warranty with it so I do not wish to open it up at the moment.  

The softmod way is reversible and untraceable and I just want to stream media off a network share and play backed up games.  When the warranty is up will open it up and put a nice big HDD in.

So does anyone have the mentioned items for sale ?
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Re: Minimig VS softmod xbox
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2007, 02:22:59 PM »
Thanks JJ, anything to enhance the Amiga experiance has got to be worth it. :-)
 

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Re: Minimig VS softmod xbox
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2007, 02:34:55 PM »
Okay it seems Thanos has Winuae and WinuaeX mixed up.

Winuae, is the ORIGINAL, and is what is made by Toni Wilen, and is STILL CURRENTLY being updated.  Winuae is a WIN32 (WINDOWS Binary) file.

Winuaex is the Xbox version.  Toni Wilen *HAS NOTHING* to do with it.  Toni Wilen Releases the SOURCE CODE to Winuae.

WinUAEX was made by an Xbox coding group called XPORT.

XPORT no longer updates Winuaex.  To compile Xbox Binaries, you need the Microsoft Development kit for Xbox, and that is *VERY* difficult to get hold of.

Xbox (Original) has a 733mhz CPU with 64MB of ram, it does not have the "GRUNT" to decode 720p HDTV.  While WinuaeX runs, it *STRUGGLES*.  Xbox does not have the system resources to run fantastic resolutions and color modes offered by AmiKit and others.  Please prove me wrong.
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Re: Minimig VS softmod xbox
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2007, 11:42:55 PM »
by whiteb on 2007/10/11 9:34:55

Okay it seems Thanos has Winuae and WinuaeX mixed up.


Thanks everyone!  It was early and I was on my way to work, I should have looked a little deeper.

Coffee 1st, post 2nd...

Having said that, it still looks like I will be able to get something for my efforts.

Lucky I got my Xbox as part of a swap, so I'm not out anything I wasn't ready to give up.

Now I'm sure I will have questions...
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Re: Minimig VS softmod xbox
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2007, 12:23:20 AM »
I have modded probably 10+ xbox's over the last couple of years. It has got to be the overall best emulation box (thats what I call it) experience ever. Just about every retro console system ever made at your fingertips and adding a larger hard drive to hold all the games. Its does a great job of emulating the amiga.

I prefer adding the mod chip instead of soft modding. I haven't  been in touch with the mod community in a long time. I am sure there are some pretty safe soft mod loaders, but I would imagine that if something went wrong you could brick your xbox.

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Re: Minimig VS softmod xbox
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2007, 01:25:36 AM »
I am as we speak in the middle of softmodding my box by hotswapping, will let you know how it turns out
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Re: Minimig VS softmod xbox
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2007, 02:18:49 AM »
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I am as we speak in the middle of softmodding my box by hotswapping, will let you know how it turns out


Good Luck!!!

I got some invites to a private torrent site "bitgamer"
where you can get a lot of the needed modding files. If someone needs them.
 

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Re: Minimig VS softmod xbox
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2007, 02:38:26 AM »
Got all the files I need.  And it worked like a charm.  Backed up my eprom now and on the weekend will be chucking a 80gig hdd in.

Im so happy  :-D
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Re: Minimig VS softmod xbox
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2007, 03:04:14 AM »
Just a thought: any mention of Amiga piracy on these forums is always considered a crime. In what way is the Xbox piracy you're talking here about any different?
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I mean modding an Xbox is illegal, right?
 

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Re: Minimig VS softmod xbox
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2007, 03:25:05 AM »
Im not sure anybody was talking about piracy. We were talking about emulators and modding xbox's. Neither one of which is illegal. What somebody does with a modded xbox or how somebody obtains the roms would be considered illegal.

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Re: Minimig VS softmod xbox
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2007, 04:25:31 AM »
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I mean modding an Xbox is illegal, right?


M$ would like you to think that buying any computer without a copy of windows should be illegal, because it's an opportunity to pirate it... that will be $200 for your NOS A1200 Amiga Magic Pack and $200 for the Windows Vista license just in case you manage to get it installed inside an emulator....

Conversely, when you have a piece of M$ made hardware, they'd like you to think that running anything other than M$ originated/approved software should be illegal.

Imagine what will happen the day we let them get away with it.... you'll be in a restaurant with a realllll tender steak... you'll inadvertantly cut it with the side of your fork... then the knife manufacturers will sue you for infringement of their monopoly, and the fork manufacturer will sue you for unauthorised use, the meat supplier will sue you for unauthorised method of enjoying the steak, and the restaurant will sue you for illegal activities violating the restaurant terms of service......

Imagine what happens to those guys who see no point in having knives and sharpen the edges of their forks... in secret... at home... when they get reported to the gestapo.

In other words, if you buy a fork you should be quite entitled to use it as a knife, up until you stab anyone with it.
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Re: Minimig VS softmod xbox
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2007, 04:29:29 AM »
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_yak_ wrote:
Just a thought: any mention of Amiga piracy on these forums is always considered a crime. In what way is the Xbox piracy you're talking here about any different?
:roll:

I mean modding an Xbox is illegal, right?


Actually, there was a court case here in Australia recently where Sony sued an outfit for exactly that because they Modded Xbox's and Playstation.  Sony *LOST* the case.

http://www.joystiq.com/2005/10/06/australian-court-mod-chipping-is-legal/

The court ruled that Mod chipping is NOT illegal, (To bypass Region coding) to allow playing of games and movies from outside the specific region.

it is my opinion that Region coding is unfair and illegal, and the court agree's.
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Re: Minimig VS softmod xbox
« Reply #29 from previous page: October 12, 2007, 05:59:09 AM »
The XBOX Mod chips are not illegal if they ship with legal Linux distributions. They're simply a flash chip with Linux stored on it.

The illegal part is installing a bios like Xectuer bios that uses parts of the MS bios and selling the chip with the hacked HYBRID homebrew/MS bios installed.

It's really bad if you sell super xboxen with 100 xbox games, emulators, roms etc. In that case you're asking for trouble and it's just bad news, there was a big raid this spring/summer in the east coast where many criminals were rounded up.

With all this legal trouble Team Exectuer, a leading mod chip maker is backing away from MOD chips and concentrating on accessories.

Running XBOX media Center and Amiga emualtors with adf's and roms you bought is once thing...

Copying 100's of commercial games and re-selling them is piggish.