Minimig VS softmod xbox

[marauderII]

I'm trying to justify spending time and Money for a minimig.
Whats the pros and cons? A used xbox with controllers can be had for $50. Usb for keyboard and mouse. Perfect Emulated amiga 500 computer. What can the minimig do that UAE on xbox or psp cant?

 

[RW222]

Fit in an old portable DVD player that you got off eBay for $10 coz the drive is busted.  :-D handheld/subnote amiga.

[marauderII]

Will the Minimig do NTSC?

I'm not trying to put it down. I'm greatful at the time and effort that has been put into creating the minimig. I just cant see spending +/- $200us and countless hours trying to find someone that does surface mount soldering.

[Crom00]

In my HUMBLE opinion...

A modded XBOX is unbeatable and it's an apples to oranges comparison. (the emulation is not perfect by the way)
Go buy your XBOX, mod it and have fun... It's a blast, media center is stunning...

From what I've read about Dennis great labor...
Mini-MIG is more about getting away from dependency on aging hardware, not just emulation. This product paves the way for complete hardware/ IP independent *LEGAL* Retro gaming platform due to the FPGA. This is more of a Hobbyist type device.


Mini-MIG is a specialty machine with the OCS running synthesized on hardware conected to an LCD TV. Not emulation hosted in an "active" Windows or MAC environment. IT's more of a "passive" sigle task type device, you turn it on and play games.

It's more of an experiemental unit to get the community going on future revisions.... It doesn't want to be the end all do all media center, web browser, thingy that will change the world...

[Crom00]

We're trying to structure it so we can do limited numbers of fully assembled debugged units without breaking the $200 mark.

[clemenza]

I totally agree with Crom00: a modded (especially a softmodded) XBOX is great and the Media Center is IMHO a killer application. Not the same thing as the Minimig though...

[alexh]

marauderII wrote:
Xbox. Perfect Emulated amiga 500 computer.

Perfect, I dont think so. WinUAEx is very very old version of WinUAE, and quite buggy. It had to be, the latest WinUAE source was too slow on an xbox. Still good though.

What can the minimig do that UAE on xbox or psp cant?

MiniMig vs Xbox : More accurate emulation, non interlaced pictures.
MiniMig vs PSP : More accurate emulation, run at full speed, decent sound.

To be honest, if you're asking these questions, you should NOT invest in a MiniMig.

[whiteb]

Not only that Alexh.. but WinuaeX has ceased being updated.

So lets look at it again, it uses a *VERY* old version of the Winuae core and it is not being worked on any more.

Not only that but the 68000 has to be emulated on the Xbox, Minimig is using *REAL* 68000 opcodes.  Thats a speed boost RIGHT THERE.

[alexh]

whiteb wrote:
Not only that Alexh.. but WinuaeX has ceased being updated.

Development hasnt ceased completely. It's just it cannot be updated any further. The next WinUAE core update above the one WinUAEx uses proved too slow for the 733MHz Celeron at the heart of the xbox. XPort wasn't going to pick through the code to see what emulation improvements effect speed and which dont and try to merge the two. If you wanted to suggest changes with technical feedback I am sure they would be implemented if they didnt take too long.

Not only that but the 68000 has to be emulated on the Xbox, Minimig is using *REAL* 68000 opcodes.  Thats a speed boost RIGHT THERE.

Erm... WinUAEx is emulation, MiniMig is an FPGA/CPU implementation. You cannot really make a "speed" comparison.

WinUAEx has A1200 AGA support ;-)

[thanos]

WinUAE 1.4.4 (22.09.2007)
http://www.winuae.net/

Looks like its still very current to me.

I just picked up a used Xbox, I'm looking forward to trying out AmigaSYS 3.
http://amigasys.extra.hu/eng/index.html

Seems like AmigaSYS, for Xbox,  will do a fair impersonation of an a1200.  Those clever people are still working on a beta test, but I'm sure it will work out well.

The minimig will be a while too, I'm sure lots of people are putting tonnes of effort into it.  Minimig will also rock.

New options are appearing on the horizon.
Every body who puts time into these projects has my respect.

My $.02 CAN, heh.

EDIT
Hmm, WinUAEX, not as current?

[alexh]

thanos wrote:
WinUAE 1.4.4 (22.09.2007)
Looks like its still very current to me.

That's the PC version. WinUAEx v16 is based on 0.9.x I think.

thanos wrote:
I just picked up a used Xbox, I'm looking forward to trying out AmigaSYS 3. http://amigasys.extra.hu/eng/index.html

AmigaSYS 3 is not an emulator. It is just a collection of software and patches (that they didnt write) for the Amiga.

It just so happens you can use it on the Xbox because it has an Amiga emulator WinUAEx.

[jj]

Talking of which has anyone got an action replay and a c opy of mechassault/spliter cell/underfire for the xbox they want to sell me please?

[tokyoracer]

I got one of them green Xbox's maybe I aught to give it a go. Only thing is I am totally new to this and I don't know were I can find a reliable source on the net showing how to do it.

[jj]

There a re loads of good sources on how to do this.
Here is one

Click Here

[marauderII]

JJ wrote:
Talking of which has anyone got an action replay and a c opy of mechassault/spliter cell/underfire for the xbox they want to sell me please?

You dont have to buy anything to softmod. Do a hard drive hot swap.