Curious about AROS

[Starrfoxx]

I've been reading more and more on AROS, and it has my interest.  Is there a way to test out AROS on a virtual hard drive with VMware?

What can you do with the current version of AROS?  Any cool games or applications?  And how would this compare to Linux/Ubuntu?  I'm loving Ubuntu and I find it quite useful, although it's not a complete replacement for my Windows XP partition (which I use mainly for games).

And how would you compare AROS with WinUAE/UAE?

[derringer3]

Hmm, it was a good feeling, when i'm boot one of my pc at my office, which is running AROS. And running dopus on a pc. But the situation is that, as ubuntu, AROS lacks good software too. (Compared to ubuntu, ubuntu has many many more apps. But ubuntu compared to win, win has more apss you know.)

[Chain]

Starrfoxx wrote:
 Is there a way to test out AROS on a virtual hard drive with VMware?

yes thats possible, and recommended

[Starrfoxx]

I was checking the AROS archives, and there isn't much there.  I did see an image file for VMware, though, so that might make it easy to setup in a virtual environment.

My main system is an AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ 2.6GHz.  It runs Windows 95 and 98 fairly decently on Virtual PC.  Heck it even runs XP decently too.  (Tried Vista; not impressed.)

I'm guessing that AROS will run just fine for me under VMware.

[Amigamia]

It will run just fine under VMWare. I am using it right now and it works very fast on my 3Ghz Pentium 4 HP NX9110 Laptop. I wouldn't use the image file on aros archive as it is an old file (I uploaded it  :-) ). Instead download the latest .ISO Live CD image from www.aros.org and install it on the virtual hard drive for VMWare. Network access works too under VMWare.

[novaburst]

I just wrote an article on installing AROS using VMware. Beware, the Installer is in pre-beta stage.

AROS install using VMware

[motorollin]

Starrfoxx wrote:
I've been reading more and more on AROS, and it has my interest.  Is there a way to test out AROS on a virtual hard drive with VMware?

Try Googling for WinAROS. It's a preconfigured and preinstalled AROS environment in the Q virtual machine. It's free.

Starrfoxx wrote:
What can you do with the current version of AROS?  Any cool games or applications?  

No browser, no Office software, not many games. But it does have a compiler so you can write your own ;-)

Starrfoxx wrote:
And how would this compare to Linux/Ubuntu?  I'm loving Ubuntu and I find it quite useful, although it's not a complete replacement for my Windows XP partition (which I use mainly for games).

AROS doesn't come close to Ubuntu in terms of software library, maturity of the OS, or hardware compatibility yet. IMO it's a curiosity, but not something which could replace Ubuntu or Windows at this stage.

Starrfoxx wrote:
And how would you compare AROS with WinUAE/UAE?

Apples and oranges. AROS doesn't run 68k Amiga software, so it is a totally different kettle of fish to [Win]UAE. AROS only *looks* like AmigaOS. It isn't really.

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moto

[Heinz]

Try WinAros.

It is using QEMU. That means it is not that fast.
If you want to see the real speed of AROS, just download the Live CD (i386-pc-boot.iso) from here.

There are a few cool apps. Lunapaint is worth a try:
http://www.sub-ether.org/lunapaint/

[dammy]

Apples and oranges. AROS doesn't run 68k Amiga software, so it is a totally different kettle of fish to [Win]UAE. AROS only *looks* like AmigaOS. It isn't really.

1. There is EUAE for running Amiga68K apps.
2. AROS is mostly AOS 3.1 API compliant.  
3. Currently AROS is being ported to X86_64, PPC and Amiga68K.

Dammy

[Piru]

1. There is EUAE for running Amiga68K apps.

But there is no integration to the system. It's just like running UAE on linux or windows.

2. AROS is mostly AOS 3.1 API compliant.

But not ABI compliant (which is the point here anyway).

motorollin is right there, you can't compare [Win]UAE and AROS.

[Louis Dias]

This is why we need something like Microsoft's CLR (.net) so that regardless of the platform (3.1, 4.0, AROS[x86,PPC,68k], MorphOS) code will just run.

I hear Hollywood is a good start.

[dammy]

But there is no integration to the system. It's just like running UAE on linux or windows.

For now, that is true.  This is the reason why DiscreetFX will be dumping in $1K to the existing EUAE Integration Bounty.  It's a wonderful thing when Corporate Sponors start funding a community based OS.

But not ABI compliant (which is the point here anyway).

motorollin is right there, you can't compare [Win]UAE and AROS.

True for now as well.  With several devs now looking at bringing AROS68K back into maintained for kickstart replacement Phase I and II, that may not be so true for AROS68K in the near future.  

AROS clearly needs more improvement for end users, no doubt about it.  There is also no doubt that it's moving forward as well and opening up to more arch's.  This month maybe a wonderful month for AROS.  :cheers:

Dammy
TeamAROS

[gdanko]

Is there a way to test out AROS on a virtual hard drive with VMware?

I tried it under vmware and it failed.

[TheMagicM]

@gdanko:

I tried it just now also.. installer pops up and goes away.. oh well, maybe they'll get it fixed.

[TheMagicM]

hooolld up.. it may be a problem w/the user (me).... still workin on it.